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Old December 2nd, 2013, 08:16 PM   #6441
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Beautiful night pic of the Milan - Meda expressway (SS35)

(from user DigitAlex70 on the Italian forum).
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Wow two McDonalds outlets (one for each side of the road).

That's amazing
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 08:17 PM   #6442
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Yes, the progress of humanity is really amazing. Two McDonald's restaurants.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 10:33 PM   #6443
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Widening works on the A14, between Ancona Nord and Senigallia, are going to resume in few days. Works were stopped last June due to financial difficulties of Samac, which now seem to have been solved.
Updated deadline is 20th September 2014.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 12:10 PM   #6444
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Very bad weather in Abruzzo, Italy. A woman died while her car was submerged by 5 meters of water in an underpass in Pescara.



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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:08 PM   #6445
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Once I was talking with someone involved in road safety and he said that such undrpasses should have a traffic light that become automatically red when the water inside reach a critical level and an engine that pump the water out automatically. Unfortunately many old underpasses don't have such safety measures, one near I live was closed many times for having 1m+ of water inside.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:17 PM   #6446
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SS640 Caltanissetta - Agrigento expressway
Beginning of the "Papazzo" tunnel (from the Italian forum)
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #6447
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Once I was talking with someone involved in road safety and he said that such underpasses should have a traffic light that become automatically red when the water inside reach a critical level and an engine that pump the water out automatically. Unfortunately many old underpasses don't have such safety measures, one near I live was closed many times for having 1m+ of water inside.
Seeing how many people do not respect red lights at level crossings, I doubt that would suffice...
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:25 PM   #6448
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People do not respect red lights?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:44 PM   #6449
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Once I was talking with someone involved in road safety and he said that such undrpasses should have a traffic light that become automatically red when the water inside reach a critical level and an engine that pump the water out automatically. Unfortunately many old underpasses don't have such safety measures, one near I live was closed many times for having 1m+ of water inside.
Why? I think that's a good IQ filter right there. If you see an overpass at your eye level and a lot of water under it and you still want to drive through...well, do I need to say it?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:45 PM   #6450
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People do not respect red lights?
Generally they do (although with some caveats). Level crossing are somewhat different, because people know that when red light appears and bells start to whistle they have a lot of time before the train arrives.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #6451
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Why? I think that's a good IQ filter right there. If you see an overpass at your eye level and a lot of water under it and you still want to drive through...well, do I need to say it?
Maybe it rained so thick she didn't have a full visual of what was ahead... let's not make rushed assumptions...
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #6452
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August 2012 imagery of the Pedemontana Lombarda, western end near A8. Will it still open in December 2013 as originally planned? (A8-A9 link).
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #6453
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Sicily, opened to traffic on a new stretch of 4.6 km of modernized SS 640 Caltanissetta-Agrigento

Pietro Ciucci, "higher security, but also lower travel times"


..and also 'Serra Cazzola' viaduct was opened:







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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:28 AM   #6454
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August 2012 imagery of the Pedemontana Lombarda, western end near A8. Will it still open in December 2013 as originally planned? (A8-A9 link).
No, it will open in March-April 2014. The stretch you posted is completed, but they are going to wait until the junction with A9 is complete.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #6455
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A landslide occured on 2nd November in a road near Matera, Basilicata. These are the (impressive) images:



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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #6456
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Generally they do (although with some caveats). Level crossing are somewhat different, because people know that when red light appears and bells start to whistle they have a lot of time before the train arrives.
Most rail crossings have barriers that block phisically the road when the light is red. Some pedestrians and cyclists pass below barriers though.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:39 AM   #6457
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Motorist_Law
In Arizona there's a law that states that people who drive across floodes roads must pay for their rescue, since they have the means to avoid that accident.

It's not road-related, but in Italy there are often legal controversies when a skier or hiker found himself\herself in troubles after doing something dangerous, such starting an excursion with bad weather or going outside marked hiking trails\ski slopes. Some people think that the rescue should be payed by the society (like any kind of rescue), other say that irresponsible people should pay for they mistakes. The problem is that it's often difficult to determine if the injuerd person was really irresponsible or just prudent but unlucky. A similar issue can arise in the case of the driver in the flooded underpass.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #6458
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On the specific case of skiers, I think ski resorts should include rescue insurance on the price of passes and insure themselves against these costs. Rescuing injured skiers is part of cost of business, I'd say.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 05:07 PM   #6459
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Breakthrough of Pale tunnel on expressway SS77 "Val di Chienti" in central Italy happened yesterday 4 December. Pale tunnel (double bore, 2.4 km long) is the third longest in the route, but more importantly, is the last one to be digged: so all tunnels (13 double bore, 26 in all, more than 40 km in total) on SS77 have been digged.

The other half of project Quadrilatero, SS76, is in bad waters. Construction sites have been deserted since April, and the most likely solution is to wait until next April when the construction branch of Impresa SpA should be sold. If the sale is going bad, there's a huge risk that works will be abandoned altogether.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/42.9779/12.8267
http://www.lestradedellinformazione....colo14097.html

Another breakthrough happened yesterday, this time on Varese Tangenziale 1st lot (part of Autostrada Pedemontana Lombarda project, although separated from the main stretch of motorway). Morazzone east tunnel (2.2 km long) was completed.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/45.7759/8.8461
http://online.stradeeautostrade.it/n...00013120599007
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40 km of tunnels? When were they all dug (not digged)?
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