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Old January 25th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #6741
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there is an explicit rule regarding these situations.
In my country there isn't, simply because there aren't conflicting situation like this one.

Anyway, let's get back to Italian strade e autostrade.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:14 PM   #6742
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Anyway, let's get back to Italian strade e autostrade.
You said Italian? Okay: H4dir.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:22 PM   #6743
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In my country there isn't, simply because there aren't conflicting situation like this one.

Anyway, let's get back to Italian strade e autostrade.
In many roadworks in Italy they have the bad habit to put random road signs on the edge of the road just to highlight the presence of roadworks. If there's a 30 speed limit, it doesn't mean that there are speed traps fining you if you drive at 40, it just means "slow down, drive carefully, there are roadworks ahead!" I've seen situation with a "white arrow in blue background" sign (mandatory direction right), placed on the edge of the road and pointing towards the ditch!
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You said Italian? Okay: H4dir.
If you zoom, it disappears. This number doesn't exist in reality. It's not the first time I see "Easter eggs" on Google Maps.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:25 PM   #6744
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Yeah, same thing in Romania. When there are roadworks they just throw there some signs on yellow background, but at least they do something with the old speed limit signs.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #6745
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I always use them.
i do, too. but there is never anybody in front of me there, while at other booths there are at least 3 or 4 cars waiting (or even more)

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Maestro is really odd. In Canada nobody has it, and in US I think also nobody has it. But most stores will hang "Maestro" sign as they accept it, but if you ask someone on street, they have no idea what it is (while everyone knows Visa, Mastercard, etc)
it's not odd, it is just not common. when i used Diners, i had problems in Hungary because it was absolutely unknown card there.
what are common debit cards in Canada? Visa electron?
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:51 PM   #6746
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Maestro uses the same network of Mastercard, and is used for debit online transactions. It is like Visa Debit/Visa.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 02:25 PM   #6747
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Easy to read signs.
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Fiordo...46.24,,1,-2.65

And a guy walking on the ramp towards the motorway.
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Fiordo...,154.44,,0,8.5
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Old January 26th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #6748
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and intersection itself is fabolous. i wonder if somebody has realized that roundabout would suit just perfectly there.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 03:45 PM   #6749
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and intersection itself is fabolous. i wonder if somebody has realized that roundabout would suit just perfectly there.
There are many places where a roundabout would fit perfectly but they didn't build it, like here and here.

About the sign on the Costiera Amalfitana, it says: "transit forbidden for buses with max height of 4.00m and max lenght of 10.36m". It sounds the exact countrary of what was intented to be
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old January 26th, 2014, 04:51 PM   #6750
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Campania strikes again
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Fiordo...,,1,10.14&z=17
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Fiordo...5,,0,9.41&z=17
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Old January 26th, 2014, 05:16 PM   #6751
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There are many places where a roundabout would fit perfectly but they didn't build it, like here and here.
I must say that there are many places where a roundabout doesn't fit at all but they built it...

And I think that there are more places in this situation than places in yours...
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Old January 26th, 2014, 06:37 PM   #6752
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I see a problem there: there is the blue "roundabout sign", which basically says (at least in my country) that, once you get in the "circle" you can drive there and do how many circles you want because you have the right of way (priority). But in that link you posted I also see a STOP sign for those the are aleready inside the "circle". This means it's not a roundabout anymore and that the signs are contradictory.

From this angle you can see both signs better.

PS: now g.spinoza will think that I have something agains Italian road signs
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Old January 26th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #6753
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I see a problem there: there is the blue "roundabout sign", which basically says (at least in my country) that, once you get in the "circle" you can drive there and do how many circles you want because you have the right of way (priority). But in that link you posted I also see a STOP sign for those the are aleready inside the "circle". This means it's not a roundabout anymore and that the signs are contradictory.

From this angle you can see both signs better.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 07:28 PM   #6754
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I thought italystf posted that roundabout because of the discussion above (discussion above places where roundabouts should be placed and are not place, and vice-versa). This roundabout from his example, besides not "fitting-in" in that place, also has contradictory signs.
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20% off on highways if you drive on them at least 20 times/month.

Discounts for commuters.

http://www.muoversiaroma.it/muoversi...o.aspx?id=6431 (article in Italian)
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Old January 29th, 2014, 04:04 PM   #6756
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BreBeMi (A35) is going to open on 1st July without any gas stations: tenders for the construction and management of gas stations near Caravaggio received no offers.

Works on the motorway, which at 31st December was 90% complete, are going to be finished by 25th April, when testing begins. It is going to open on 1st July.

http://bergamo.corriere.it/bergamo/n...5b09a302.shtml
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Progress in A58 works, official data (december 2013):

- Lot A (Agrate Brianza - Bellinzago): 39.2%
- Lot B (Bellinzago - Pozzuolo Martesana): 14.9%
- Arco TEEM (connection with A35, Cassanese and Rivoltana): 71.7%
- Lot C (Zelo Buon Persico - Cerro al Lambro): 23.4%

http://www.tangenziale.esterna.it/a-che-punto-siamo/
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Old January 31st, 2014, 12:47 AM   #6758
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20% off on highways if you drive on them at least 20 times/month.

Discounts for commuters.

http://www.muoversiaroma.it/muoversi...o.aspx?id=6431 (article in Italian)
an idea in right direction, but useful only for hardcore commuters (and not me) has telepass some advantages (other than passing by) ?
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:27 AM   #6759
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5km queue in A23 (Udine nord exit) in Austria direction due to heavy snow between Carnia and border crossing. Traffic allowed only for < 7,5 tons vehicles
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Fernetti border also closed today for sup. 7,5
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