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Old February 7th, 2014, 02:37 PM   #6801
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I think the main point if it will be to divide a14 to a13 traffic from the current passante
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Old February 7th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #6802
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I think the main point if it will be to divide a14 to a13 traffic from the current passante
They should build the long-awaited "Romea Commerciale" (Mestre - Ravenna coastal motorway) and a14 to a13 (and viceversa) traffic will drop to almost zero.
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Old February 7th, 2014, 03:12 PM   #6803
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From what I read, they should start soon building it...
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Old February 7th, 2014, 03:24 PM   #6804
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It would be already a good result to have the Romea Commerciale and the upgraded E45 till Orte in 20 years.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 05:07 PM   #6805
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Old February 8th, 2014, 05:10 PM   #6806
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Old February 8th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #6807
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Stunning pics. Congratulation if you took them yourself!
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Old February 8th, 2014, 06:36 PM   #6808
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I want to share with you some pictures I shot on Autostrada A4 between Verona and Gorizia. My actual route was Verona Tangenziale Sud - Autostrda A4 - Vicenza - Padova - Autostrada A57 near Mestre - Autostrada A4 again - Autostrada A34 - Gorizia.

On Tangenziale Sud Verona:









Now on A4 between Verona and Vicenza:



I stopped at this Autogrill...



... just to take some pictures of the motorway from above (through the dirty window ):



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Old February 8th, 2014, 06:41 PM   #6809
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Driving on A4 to Vicenza:



Vicenza Tangenziale Sud goes parallel to Autostrada A4, so we have 4 parallel tunnels:



Inside one of the tunnels:



Nice view from the tunnel:





This picture would have looked a lot better if it would have been shot from a truck, high above the road, so you could see the number of lanes that the Autostrada and parallel Tangenziale have:



A4 and on the right Padova Tangenziale Nord:



I exited here to eat something at IKEA, but unfortunately it was closed:

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Old February 8th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #6810
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A4 / A13 interchange near Padova:



Lonely tree between the 2 carriageways:



I've never seen in Italy a sign with arrows like this one:



I got of A4 and drove on A57 near Mestre (Venice):





Large toll plaza near Venice:



On A57 near Mestre (Venice):


We discussed some time ago about "middle lane hogging" on Italian motorways. On A57 I also drove on the middle lane because the speed limit on the right lane was lower than the middle or left lanes.

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Old February 8th, 2014, 06:52 PM   #6811
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Back on A4 between Venice and Trieste, there were some roadworks for a long distance...





Here's the A4 / A23 motorway interchange:



Interesting way to do it. Instead of a new exit lane on the right, this one is on the left:



Just after A4 / A34 interchange, motorway to Gorizia:



A34 was still not entirely completed, so it had just 1 lane per direction + ridiculously low speed limit:



A nice looking bridge before the Slovenian border:



That's all
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Old February 8th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #6812
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Nice photos Bogdymol

How far along is the A4 widening east of Venezia today?
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Old February 8th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #6813
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On A57 near Mestre (Venice):

This photo bring up bad memories of long traffic jams I endured there, when this was still A4 and the Mestre bypass was u/c. The worst of all was in 2008, during a summer trip to Austria under a heat wave in August. Not fun
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Old February 8th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #6814
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Nice photos Bogdymol

How far along is the A4 widening east of Venezia today?
They're working only between Quarto d'Altino (junction with A57) and San Donà di Piave. Speed limit here is 80 for cars and 70 for trucks. There are many speed traps.

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I've never seen in Italy a sign with arrows like this one:
It's confusing since you have to go straight for Trieste (A4) or Belluno (A27), not turn left.

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Here's the A4 / A23 motorway interchange:

Interesting way to do it. Instead of a new exit lane on the right, this one is on the left:
It's not an exit on the left, it's a "directional T interchange" between A4 and A23.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #6815
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Stunning pics. Congratulation if you took them yourself!
Unfortunately the pics aren't mine.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 10:17 PM   #6816
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I got of A4 and drove on A57 near Mestre (Venice):

A coincidence, today it is exactly 5 years ago the Mestre bypass opened to traffic.

It opened 8 February 2009.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 10:26 PM   #6817
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I remember it when I was there in 2010. But since the Roncade exit wasn't built back then we got on A57 and then towards Venice airport in order to reach the hotel in Jesolo.
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Old February 9th, 2014, 02:48 AM   #6818
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some signs on A57 still say A4 widening works are up to Cessalto now.
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Old February 9th, 2014, 12:08 PM   #6819
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This widening is for 3+3 ?
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Old February 9th, 2014, 04:40 PM   #6820
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This widening is for 3+3 ?
Yes.
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