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Old March 6th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #6901
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My guess is that current A1 will retain its designation while Variante will be called A1var or something similar.
I hope they will do the contrary, A1 the new road and someting else the old road.
Like the A4 in Mestre that became A57 after the opening of the Passante di Mestre and the "Fiano Romano - San Cesareo link" that became A1 with the old stretches renamed A1dir Roma nord and A1dir Roma sud.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #6902
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I had the feeling that Autostrade per l'Italia wants A1 and Variante to be more or less equal, in terms of importance, while the in other examples you mentioned new and old road play very different roles. Just a feeling, though.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 11:46 PM   #6903
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I've heard that the new one will be forbidden to trucks carring dangerous things because it contains an 8km tunnel.
The toll will be the same because when you exit somewhere they couldn't know what route did you take but only when you entered. For normal traffic the new one will be much better, it climbs only to 400m instead of 700. This in an advantage especially in winter.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 12:02 AM   #6904
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I've heard that the new one will be forbidden to trucks carring dangerous things because it contains an 8km tunnel.
What will they do if and when the planned 9 km tunnel will open for the (new) southbound carriageway? (just north of Florence, using the existing motorway as four northbound lanes)
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Old March 7th, 2014, 09:19 AM   #6905
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If the condition for hazmat transit was the absence of (long) tunnels, they would not be allowed practically anywhere in Italy.
I think they will be allowed inside Valico tunnel.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 09:27 AM   #6906
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Just to refresh information on how traffic will work there once works are completed


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As for the sectors that were de-commissioned, they are located near Sasso Marconi, where a new alignment was built. IT is possible to see the old highway on Google satellite maps https://goo.gl/maps/LRkHf
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Old March 7th, 2014, 01:31 PM   #6907
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Former part of A1? No parts of current A1 are going to be downgraded.
I thought about parallel section with Variante
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Old March 7th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #6908
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I thought about parallel section with Variante
Both will mantain their motorway status, so no other designation (SS, SR) is required.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:10 PM   #6909
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Old March 17th, 2014, 12:53 AM   #6910
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What about section just north of Firenze? According to 2013 Google Earth imagery no work is being done to widen A1.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 01:34 AM   #6911
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3rd lane Barberino - Incisa is U\C and will be complete by 2016-2017.
http://toscana.portale-infrastruttur...heda.asp?id=24
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Only 1 lot of 3.4 km is currently u/c. The rest is still on the drawing table.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 02:04 PM   #6913
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Works for the new junction Crespellano on the A1 near Bologna have begun. I think funds were ready in 2010 so I'm not sure what the delay was about.
It is part of a larger construction site, with works for superstrada SP569 "Nuova Bazzanese" nearby and a couple new roundabout on SP27 "Valle del Samoggia" to connect it with the A1 and the junction.

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Old March 22nd, 2014, 02:38 PM   #6914
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 03:18 PM   #6915
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"A company of Roma" means "a company made up of gypsy", which is not the case.

What he meant was "a Rome-based company"...
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A company from Roma would suffice as well.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 04:04 PM   #6917
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Rome is always used in English-language texts.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 04:17 PM   #6918
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Roman company would sound even better
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 04:22 AM   #6919
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But if road was built by Romans it would last 1000 years, so probably only by "people from Rome"
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Old March 26th, 2014, 03:19 PM   #6920
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