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Old January 19th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #7981
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A60 will be an extension of SS 712, but they will likely keep different numbers as SS 712 has not motorway standards. SS 712 was even unnumbered (at least for the public) until not much time ago. Many Italian road which were previously numbered as NSA (Nuova Strada ANAS = New ANAS Road = temporary number) received a "standard" number recently. Some NSA roads were even signposted as such. A temporary number (even if used for a lot of time) which is signposted is quite unusual...

https://maps.google.ch/maps?ll=45.78...01929&t=m&z=16

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strada..._Est_di_Varese

An extension of A60 on the other side of SS 712 is still planned but will not be built soon:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relatio...45.8037/8.8641
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Old January 19th, 2015, 10:49 PM   #7982
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An extension of A60 on the other side of SS 712 is still planned but will not be built soon:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relatio...45.8037/8.8641
But still may likely be completed before the Italian side of the FMV!



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Old January 19th, 2015, 11:54 PM   #7983
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A14,Bologna bypass

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Old January 20th, 2015, 11:12 AM   #7984
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Last 23rd December a 1km stretch of SS 121 "Palermo-Agrigento", in Sicily, was opened. It is a 1+1 new road on a difficult mountain stretch.
By 1st January, viaduct Scorciavacche 2 was already in these conditions:


From newspaper La Stampa:
http://www.lastampa.it/2015/01/04/it...3H/pagina.html

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New insights on this.
http://www.corriere.it/inchieste/rep...17828c75.shtml
Newspaper Il Corriere della Sera explains some details about the construction and opening of this stretch. Summing up:

- Viaduct was opened ahead of schedule (3 months) because both the construction company and Pietro Ciucci (head of Italian State Road company ANAS) would have earned a bonus.
- Nobody made tests on the viaduct. The first engineer didn't go to the site because when he was called, works were still at a very early stage. The second engineer didn't go because... he was not an engineer (he didn't even have a degree). Third and fourth engineers didn't go, either.
- The director of works wrote a "certificate of conformity", but the law states that such a document must be produced only in cases of absolute urgence (which was not the case).
- A former worker of ANAS stated that the three months were necessary for the terrain to consolidate, so opening ahead of schedule was not correct.
- Ciucci fired the Head of Construction Department of ANAS in Sicily, Bucci. But this was just a ruse: he was transferred, with the same job, in Abruzzo, where his family lives (so it was kind of a promotion, instead of a punishment). Bucci was replaced by Lagrotteria, convicted in 2010 for corruption: when this was brought forth by the press, Ciucci fired him and replaced him with another guy.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 12:16 PM   #7985
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Highway A18 Catania-Messina, Sicily - Italy

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Old January 21st, 2015, 12:28 PM   #7986
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Nice, but I think it was already posted (unless I'm confusing with another thread).
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Old January 21st, 2015, 01:44 PM   #7987
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I confirm. It was already posted
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Old January 21st, 2015, 06:41 PM   #7988
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I think it was this one:

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Old January 21st, 2015, 07:19 PM   #7989
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Old January 21st, 2015, 09:18 PM   #7990
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Pictures of A23:
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/115956859.jpg
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Old January 21st, 2015, 09:21 PM   #7991
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Second part:
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/115956956.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/115956974.jpg
That's all for now,if i have time i'll post more pictures.
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 11:46 AM   #7992
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Apparently A60 Gazzada Schianno-Vedano Olona (4.5km) section linking the A8 and an already built section of tangenziale di Varese, will open on Saturday.
http://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cr...3fa7313b.shtml
A36 Cassano Magnago (A8) to Lomazzo (A9) should open January 31.
http://www.laprovinciadivarese.it/st...ta_1100453_11/


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Old January 22nd, 2015, 11:56 AM   #7993
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A36 Cassano Magnago (A8) to Lomazzo (A9) should open January 31.
http://www.laprovinciadivarese.it/st...ta_1100453_11/
This has been announced for January 26th:
http://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cr...3fa7313b.shtml
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 12:05 PM   #7994
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I don't know if this has already been posted, but here is an aerial video, possibly made by a drone, of the soon-to-be-opened first stretch of A36:

http://video.corriere.it/viaggio-nuo...1-55218c79aee3
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 12:09 PM   #7995
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[I] Italy | road infrastructure • strade e autostrade

Sorry, you're right. First section of A36 should open on Monday 26.


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Old January 22nd, 2015, 04:04 PM   #7996
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Nice, but I think it was already posted (unless I'm confusing with another thread).
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I think it was this one:

Mmm.. Maybe. I think it was another photo of the same eruption (December 2013)

Etna made usually 10-12 eruptions/year and this explains why you probably have already seen an eruption from Giarre's toolbooth.



18 January 2011



23 February 2013



and 13 January 2011:
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 11:55 PM   #7997
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Without a doubt an awesome sight (as long as stones are not falling over your car, just ash).
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Old January 24th, 2015, 12:52 AM   #7998
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A15: Autostrada della Cisa (La Spezia - Parma), Italy


My overall opinion is that A15 is very good motorway with good pavement.I think that i saw couple of potholes,but that's normal for every old motorway.Also i think that A15 has better pavemnt then A1 thru Apennines.
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Old January 24th, 2015, 10:19 AM   #7999
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My overall opinion is that A15 is very good motorway
It's not.
I drove there several times, and while the mountain section on the Thyrrenian side is not that bad, the one on the other side is terrible: steep, sharp 60 km/h curves at the end of straight downhill sections... is one of the most dangerous roads I've ever driven.
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There is no way A15 is a better highway (geometry, design) than A1. It wasn't a better road even before the first parts of the works on A1 were completed.

As g.spinoza said, there are some tight curves there.

It is fun to drive, though, on a clear skies days without fog and much traffic.

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This is my very personal rank, best to worst, of all trans-Apennine autostrada in Italy, considering geometry, design, subjective safety perception etc.

1. A25
2. A1 when fully completed
3. A26
4. A15
5. A25
6. A16
7. A6 (technically, it crosses the Alps)
8. A7

A6 southbound is the most fun to drive on a day with clear skies and no congestion. A25 is the most scenic.
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