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Old March 7th, 2015, 04:04 PM   #8081
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Meanwhile the accident on A3 is having disastrous consequences on traffic. The bridge is totally closed in both directions and there are no good alternatives to it. They are talking of hours of delays for a very long time
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Old March 7th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #8082
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Meanwhile the accident on A3 is having disastrous consequences on traffic. The bridge is totally closed in both directions and there are no good alternatives to it. They are talking of hours of delays for a very long time
"Hours of delay" is an exaggeration, at least not considering summer weekends.

There should be some 45-60 min delay under average conditions. This is the place where it happened.


SS19 (the local alternative) is a windy road through the hills, but it has space for 2 lanes, if only.

Longer distance traffic has options of longer detours.
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Old March 7th, 2015, 06:34 PM   #8083
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Horrible tunnel disaster today on SS42 near Breno, Lombardy: a truck lost some heavy steel bars after a accident and they hit passing cars. 2 dead and 10 injured.



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Mu family's hometown. The guy who triggered the multiple crash by illegally overtaking another vehicle died. Just about time to install CCTV in those tunnels. And fine people like there's no tomorrow. There, several other tunnels along the same road. Many around 2km and 1 is 5+ km.
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Old March 11th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #8084
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The opening of the Pedemontana Veneta expressaway was delayed from 2017 to 2018, except that very short section that will open later this year.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 10:00 PM   #8085
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Is there some more information known about the damage to the Viadotto Italia?
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Old March 13th, 2015, 02:42 AM   #8086
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The section of A3 between Laino Borgo and Mormanno will remain close for at least 6 months. Even if the other carriaggeway didn't collapse, they need to close it for investigation.
Currently traffic uses the following alternate routes:
Northbound light traffic leaves the motorway at Mormanno and re-enters it at Laino Borgo, using local roads. Southbound light traffic follows the same route in the opposite direction. Average delay: 25 minutes.
Northbound heavy traffic is required to leave the motorway at Spezzano Terme - Tarsia and re-enter it at Lauria Nord, using SS283, SS534, SS106 and SS653. Estimate delay: 60 minutes.
Southbound heavy traffic is required to leave the motorway at Lagonegro Nord and re-enter it at Falerna, via SS585 and SS18. Estimate delay: 45 minutes.
I guess those delays will be much worse this summer, especially during weekends.
http://www.ilquotidianoweb.it/news/c...lla-A3--l.html
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Old March 13th, 2015, 04:37 PM   #8087
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Ouch.

You'd expect part of the summer traffic to switch to the A14 and SS106 for the drive South. The crossing between the Ionica and the A3 at Sibari (SS534) is South of the bridge. But apart from this being much less of an issue for people travelling South from places like Rome and Napoli, you can expect some serious bottlenecks along the SS106 and the SS534.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #8088
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Ouch.

You'd expect part of the summer traffic to switch to the A14 and SS106 for the drive South. The crossing between the Ionica and the A3 at Sibari (SS534) is South of the bridge. But apart from this being much less of an issue for people travelling South from places like Rome and Napoli, you can expect some serious bottlenecks along the SS106 and the SS534.
There will probably occur traffic jams at the end of A14 at Massafra and on SS534, that is currently under upgrade works. Traffic to\from Sicily should use the Naples-Palermo ferry instead.
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Old March 16th, 2015, 01:03 AM   #8089
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria


The works for three lane highways from Napoli to Castellammare di Stabia were definitively completed!
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Old March 16th, 2015, 01:43 AM   #8090
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria


The works for three lane highways from Napoli to Castellammare di Stabia were definitively completed!
Works for the third lane from Naples to Castellamare di Stabia had finally been completed.

The widening of the 25-km-long section of motorway took 11 years and costed over 500 million €. Works were supposed to end in 2008, but they were delayed due to local political issues and appeals in court against it.
The new junction of Angri\Scafati will open at the end of te year. The entire section has draining asphalt now.
http://www.askanews.it/regioni/campa..._711371682.htm
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Old March 17th, 2015, 01:52 PM   #8091
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Third lane from Napoli to Castellammare di Stabia by night:



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Old March 18th, 2015, 04:53 PM   #8092
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The first free-flow portal of Italy had been installed few days ago on the recently-opened Varese bypass (A60). It's not operative yet, though.

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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old March 19th, 2015, 07:14 PM   #8093
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Another bridge failure on Italian motorways!

Viaduct Cacchione, km 462.4 southbound of the A14, between Vasto Sud and Termoli has been closed due to a landslide beneath that created a 15 cm gap in the pavement:



http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corrie...id=SF020103COR


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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #8094
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Sorry, but it isn't a "failure", it's a landslide which destroyed the road. Or do You think bridges shall withstand these kind of unforeseekable events?
And we are not talking about a new bridge, it's there since decades.
Your post is misguiding.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #8095
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Failure means it doesn't work any more. Nothing judgemental in my words.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #8096
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Sorry, but it isn't a "failure", it's a landslide which destroyed the road. Or do You think bridges shall withstand these kind of unforeseekable events?
And we are not talking about a new bridge, it's there since decades.
Your post is misguiding.
g.spinoza used "failure" in a proper context in English.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #8097
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No, not at all!
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:54 PM   #8098
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I also thought there had been something wrong with the bridge, but apparently there wasn't.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:57 PM   #8099
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No, not at all!
In English, failure can be used as a descriptor of abnormal non self-correcting disruption in some system. It might be earthworks or special works in a highway, software etc.
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From Merriam Webster dictionary:

a fracturing or giving way under stress*<structural*failure>
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