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Old March 26th, 2015, 01:08 AM   #8121
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Old March 26th, 2015, 12:37 PM   #8122
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Old March 26th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #8123
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Green: completed
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Orange: works will start soon
Light blue: tender procedure in progress
Red: still in planning stage
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Old March 27th, 2015, 12:50 PM   #8124
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(in italian) Brebemi : a disaster, only 11 000 cars per day. 80 000 were expected

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Old March 27th, 2015, 01:06 PM   #8125
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Old March 27th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #8126
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Old March 27th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #8127
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80,000 were expected when? Traffic projections for new motorways are usually 10 - 20 years after the motorway opens, not within months of opening.

I do think the traffic forecast was too high, considering the high tolls.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #8128
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Yup the link to TEEM is broken too.

Till its completion it's difficult to say if BreBeMi is a complete failure
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Old March 27th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #8129
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It's broken because it's not a link. It says: http://Il disastro Brebemi, soltanto 11mila auto al giorno contro le 80mila previste, it can't be a link with spaces.
The correct link is: http://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/...emi-109011329/
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Old March 29th, 2015, 12:45 PM   #8130
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Old March 29th, 2015, 01:41 PM   #8131
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Stati load tests on TEEM (Milano)

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vi segnaliamo che questa mattina si sono tenuti sul Viadotto Lambro di TEEM alcuni test statici, utilizzando 40 tir complessivamente carichi di 1.600 tonnellate di sabbia. Vi proponiamo alcune immagini dell'intervento, ulteriori informazioni sono disponibili sul sito di Tangenziale Esterna (http://bit.ly/1yje4n2).

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Old March 29th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #8132
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Will the old viaduct in that picture be demolished?
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Old March 29th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #8133
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Will the old viaduct in that picture be demolished?
Yes.

They consider the old alignment (of which these old viaducts are part) a blight on the coastal towns like Scilla.

Look how it looks on Google MAps, old alignment still visible on imagery.

It would be very expensive to keep the old alignment opened, and it wouldn't serve any additional local connections.
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Old March 29th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #8134
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Yes.

They consider the old alignment (of which these old viaducts are part) a blight on the coastal towns like Scilla.

Look how it looks on Google MAps, old alignment still visible on imagery.

It would be very expensive to keep the old alignment opened, and it wouldn't serve any additional local connections.
Seems like the old route has been straightened quite a bit in that area. It's going to cost a lot also to demolish it in a controlled manner, won't it?
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Old March 29th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #8135
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Is implosion that expensive?


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Demolition of that viaduct you saw on the photo
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Old March 29th, 2015, 04:30 PM   #8136
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Clearly much cheaper than building it

I don't know what the costs are, but my guess would be that the more expensive part is not the implosion itself but the removal of the resulting rubble and renaturing of the area.
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It could be also, it is too close to new viaduct and debris from explosion could damage cables or pilons.
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The post you quoted said "quasi completata" (almost complete). 000

I recognize that huge progresses have been made in the past 11 years (reconstruction works started in 2004), but there are still some sections (not to mention local junctions) that will require still some years. I guess the entire motorway will be completed by the early 2020s. I would use "almost complete" when there are only few months left.



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I don't know what the costs are, but my guess would be that the more expensive part is not the implosion itself but the removal of the resulting rubble and renaturing of the area.
Of course. The enormous amount of debris needs to be collected with excavators and hauled away with trucks, that need to operate across a really harsh terrain (probably the construction of a temporary motorable earth track to reach the former viaduct location is required too).

Demolition debris can be crushed and recycled to produce new material for buildings and roads foundations. Then, they need to plow the terrain and plant young trees to make the area appearig like a virgin forest again.
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Old March 30th, 2015, 03:33 PM   #8139
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The post you quoted said "quasi completata" (almost complete). 000

I recognize that huge progresses have been made in the past 11 years (reconstruction works started in 2004), but there are still some sections (not to mention local junctions) that will require still some years. I guess the entire motorway will be completed by the early 2020s. I would use "almost complete" when there are only few months left.
The works which they are working, will be completed before not in 2020 (i guess in the next 1-2 years). In 2020 perhaps the rest.
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The works which they are working, will be completed before not in 2020 (i guess in the next 1-2 years). In 2020 perhaps the rest.
Yes, but some parts will still require several years because they aren't U/C yet.
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