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Old April 9th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #8161
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Thank you for posting the video, but I really hope you are not the driver... overtaking inside a tunnel with a double solid line (2:20)
No, I'm not the driver, forumer Stabia is the driver/uploader.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 08:27 PM   #8162
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Thank you for posting the video, but I really hope you are not the driver... overtaking inside a tunnel with a double solid line (2:20)
Not uncommon at all in Italy.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 11:40 PM   #8163
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Definitively one of the worst driving discipline I've ever seen on a regular(*) road video.

(*)not counting Russian dashcam compilations and things like these.

We in Italy tent to violate traffic discipline, but some of his overtakings are really really dangerous, in a such a road with many curves, tunnels and a lot of traffic. I would probably need to change my pants if I were in a car with a such reckless driver.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 09:10 AM   #8164
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I once was, my brother-in-law was driving. Her 6-years-old daughter was in the car with us. I promised myself I will never get in a car he's driving again.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 12:27 PM   #8165
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Her 6-years-old daughter was in the car with us.
I guess that's a mistake. Unless this is your sister-in-law.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 01:40 PM   #8166
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Cellphone autocorrect issue.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 08:38 AM   #8167
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Yet another bridge failure. A19 Palermo Catania, this time.

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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:02 AM   #8168
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casually, Always on ANAS roads, and in the Southern Italy -.-'
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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:53 AM   #8169
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And again, the word "failure" leads to a wrong conclusion: the bridge was damaged by a landslide, and did't not fail by it's own means.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:06 PM   #8170
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Stop misleading us, g.spinoza.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #8171
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And again, the word "failure" leads to a wrong conclusion: the bridge was damaged by a landslide, and did't not fail by it's own means.
A landslide with a long history, almost ten years.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:35 PM   #8172
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And again, the word "failure" leads to a wrong conclusion: the bridge was damaged by a landslide, and did't not fail by it's own means.
The bridge constructively failed, it doesn't really matter what caused it, be it a landslide, flood, faulty construction or lack of maintenance, to be called a 'bridge failure'.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:56 PM   #8173
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The bridge constructively failed, it doesn't really matter what caused it, be it a landslide, flood, faulty construction or lack of maintenance, to be called a 'bridge failure'.
No, even through the highway's old (1975), it was a landslide.






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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #8174
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The solution there is probably a cable-stayed bridge over the whole unstable area.

The island has several unstable areas like that.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #8175
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The bridge constructively failed, it doesn't really matter what caused it, be it a landslide, flood, faulty construction or lack of maintenance, to be called a 'bridge failure'.
You're right if You expect the bridge to withstand the landslide, to "self-correct" and resist.
What really failed is the system of preventive actions: the landslide is known since decades, but nothing, not a single stone was moved to protect the motorway. Now someone suggest that the motorway will stay closed for several years. It's simply foolish.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #8176
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The solution there is probably a cable-stayed bridge over the whole unstable area. The island has several unstable areas like that.
Of course, but none is so fast giving no time to react and prevent events like this. Maintenance is a real problem in Italy, we build new roads but forget to keep the old ones in good shape, or make them gradually better and better. Why? Corruption lives thanks to emergencies, not from plans and caution.

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Old April 11th, 2015, 05:02 PM   #8177
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And again, the word "failure" leads to a wrong conclusion: the bridge was damaged by a landslide, and did't not fail by it's own means.
Stop trolling and learn English.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #8178
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There are several Italian terms that can be corrected translated into "failure", that is where the confusion comes, I think.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 05:22 PM   #8179
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@g.spinoza:You're kidding!
Please, next time if You want to report these kind of events, just describe exactly what happend ("a landslide made another bridge collapse...", for example), and don't relay on Your english knowledge: someone may not speak it like You, and will not understand Your message.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 05:28 PM   #8180
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It may all be called "bridge failure", but there's a big difference if a bridge collapses because of a landslide or because of lack of maintenance. It's important to mention the reason.
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