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Old April 17th, 2015, 03:28 PM   #8221
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I never saw trucks on SOS. You may have found a special trucking day in Italy when you were here.
Drive in the morning on A4 there are plenty of trucks on SOS bays. It is better than it used to be, I remember cca 10 years ago that it was pretty difficult to find a free bay at all.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #8222
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I never saw trucks on SOS. You may have found a special trucking day in Italy when you were here.

Also the rest areas are not usually overflowing
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I haven't used Italian rest areas a lot, but they seem overcrowded with trucks. I've seen SOS bays being used as truck parking as well. Quite dangerous to accelerate from there on a shoulder that's not wide enough for a truck.
I must agree with Chris, I see trucks in SOS bays all the time.
Also, in rest areas I see trucks always parked beside the gas pumps, while truck park spots are always more or less empty.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 07:23 PM   #8223
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I disagree. French ones are way better.
I do not agree.

They just have bigger parking areas
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Old April 17th, 2015, 08:25 PM   #8224
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I never saw trucks on SOS. You may have found a special trucking day in Italy when you were here.

Also the rest areas are not usually overflowing
I saw a plenty of examples on A1 between Florence and Bologna.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #8225
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2 major motorways in the south interrupted. I have never seen anything like this.
Something like this already happened in Abruzzo region (your region), the last month.

It was even a landscape, but any viaduct collapsed.


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Abruzzo. La collina frana: chiusa l’autostrada A14 tra Termoli e Vasto
Bloccati anche i treni, dorsale adriatica interrotta
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http://www.primadanoi.it/news/cronac...na-frana-.html
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:40 PM   #8226
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My comment about the Italian service areas concerned the facilities itself, more than the buildings. You can eat better at Italian service areas than French ones. Many Autogrill stations have hot plate buffets or food you might try on a long drive, and the bathrooms are usually kept in better conditions compared to France.

Both countries are on good standing if compared to Spain or Germany though.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:45 PM   #8227
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I find Italian rest areas toilettes simply disgusting
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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:22 PM   #8228
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there are good ones too. I would say it's 50:50 good vs bad.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:55 PM   #8229
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there are good ones too. I would say it's 50:50 good vs bad.
Of course it depends by the moment you use them, in relation to the amount of traffic and cleaning shifts. I use them too occasionally to make statistics, though.
The problem often are the users, more than Autogrill personnel. I mean, people don't even respect public places that should perceive as "theirs", like streets and parks in their cities, let alone motorway rest areas that are "transit places" only, used to fulfil people's practical needs without any affective involvement.
At least in Italy we don't have to pay to use the toilets, like we have to do in Austria (50 cents) and I even don't see anymore those "charity baskets" at the entrance of them that were ubquitous until few years ago.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 06:59 PM   #8230
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Of course it depends by the moment you use them, in relation to the amount of traffic and cleaning shifts. I use them too occasionally to make statistics, though.
The problem often are the users, more than Autogrill personnel. I mean, people don't even respect public places that should perceive as "theirs", like streets and parks in their cities, let alone motorway rest areas that are "transit places" only, used to fulfil people's practical needs without any affective involvement.
At least in Italy we don't have to pay to use the toilets, like we have to do in Austria (50 cents) and I even don't see anymore those "charity baskets" at the entrance of them that were ubquitous until few years ago.
You can't educate people to be respectful, but you can force personnel to clean.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 09:29 PM   #8231
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A 4 km stretch in carriway south opened to traffic today near Lauria Nord (Basilicata region)
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Old April 20th, 2015, 04:26 PM   #8232
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I find Italian rest areas toilettes simply disgusting
Please go in France or spain... also in swtzerland it's realy clean sometimes...
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Old April 21st, 2015, 11:36 PM   #8233
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Spanish rest areas are not the best ones in the world, but the main problem here is the big difference between autopistas and autovías. While in tolled autopistas you have rest areas similar to the ones in France and Italy, in toll-free Autovías rest areas simply don't exist, with a few exceptions there are only old fashioned road restaurants with direct access to the Autovía, or gas stations with a small shop.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 05:50 PM   #8234
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Everybody is gunning for the Telepass lanes. A4 Milano Est

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This shows that free-flow tolling shouldn't be that hard to implement. And it would be much less costly to manage.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 12:09 AM   #8236
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Old April 29th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #8237
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Everybody is gunning for the Telepass lanes. A4 Milano Est
There should be more Telepass lanes than manual gates
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Old April 29th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #8238
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Is it possible to buy/rent a telepass for people living outside Italy (ex. Germany)?
If yes, from where? Or can one buy one while being in Italy?

Are the costs worth it?

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Old April 29th, 2015, 11:47 AM   #8239
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In Spain, we also have reserved lanes for VIA-T (our version of Telepass), however most (if not all) lanes can also be used by VIA-T users. You obviously have to drive more slowly if you want to use VIA-T in a normal toll lane, but that's better than being stuck in a queue for the Telepass lanes.

That would be easy and cheap to implement in Italy, I guess.

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In Spain, we also have reserved lanes for VIA-T (our version of Telepass), however most (if not all) lanes can also be used by VIA-T users. You obviously have to drive more slowly if you want to use VIA-T in a normal toll lane, but that's better than being stuck in a queue for the Telepass lanes.

That would be easy and cheap to implement in Italy, I guess.

Many manual gates are also Telepass gates, at least in smaller stations.
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