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Old June 8th, 2015, 10:35 AM   #8361
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If I resume the autostrada and supestrada in construction in Italy: Pedemontana Veneta Pedemontana Lombarda A12 Genova- Roma completation A1 variante Bologna-Firenze ss 318 Fabriano-Perugia ss 77 Foligno marche ss 675 Viterbo-Tarquinia ss 534 A3- Sibari ss 106 locri a18 rossolini-ragusa ss 640 caltanisseta-agrigento ss 16 Maglie-Otranto ss223 Grosseto-Siena A31 val d'astico sud completation We have a lot of work ongoing here!
Also the Sassari-Olbia in Sardinia
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Old June 8th, 2015, 12:42 PM   #8362
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Also the Sassari-Olbia in Sardinia
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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #8363
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Here you can see the new A52 north of Milano. I thought they were going to duplicate SP46, but they built a new alignment. The imagery is dated 3 April 2015.

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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #8364
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That section is already open, up to the railway line on the far right. The rest will be an in situ expansion of SP46.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:55 AM   #8365
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That curve on the old alignment wasn't compatible with a motorway standard. Better the chosen solution, by far.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:58 AM   #8366
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Here you can see the new A52 north of Milano. I thought they were going to duplicate SP46, but they built a new alignment. The imagery is dated 3 April 2015.

Great!
Now with the A58, A52, A50, A4, and the A36 (need to be completed) milano have one of the biggest network in europe.
In google maps it's not updated, for exemple half of the expressway of puglia are not in orange on the map. Even the completed portion of the A52 in Milano. It's boring.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 11:17 AM   #8367
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That section is already open, up to the railway line on the far right. The rest will be an in situ expansion of SP46.
Not exactly. The road axis will be displaced several meters to make curves smoother an to put the new carriageway in a trench.
The old alignment will be kept partly to make a local road, single lane.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 11:30 AM   #8368
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Very odd: there is no direct connection from A52/SP46/SS33 to A4 at Fiera Milano (the fair!):

https://www.google.de/maps/dir/45.53...m3!4m2!3e0!5i1
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Old June 9th, 2015, 12:59 PM   #8369
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Very odd: there is no direct connection from A52/SP46/SS33 to A4 at Fiera Milano (the fair!):

https://www.google.de/maps/dir/45.53...m3!4m2!3e0!5i1
Coming from Turin the connection is indirect, You have to take A50 first. After Expo there will be direct connection. Coming from Venice it has always been there.
At the end You can reach the fair ground from and to any direction of A4.
There isn't the space for making a complete interchange A4/SS33/fair ground: A4<->SS33 works only west-bound.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 01:07 PM   #8370
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The other direction.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #8371
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Here you can see the new A52 north of Milano. I thought they were going to duplicate SP46, but they built a new alignment. The imagery is dated 3 April 2015.
The abandoned SP46 will be used as cyclelane.

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The other direction.
The problem is solved if you turn before:
https://www.google.si/maps/dir/45.51...!4e1!3e0?hl=sl
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Old June 10th, 2015, 01:06 AM   #8372
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My understanding was that A52 is a bypass for overloaded A4, but with this bad connection this is not the case. Nobody coming from Turin and going to East of Milan would take the route proposed above.

I can't believe that there was not enough space. The whole area has been completely new designed together with the fair. And in the neighborhood of a fair planners must expect drivers not familiar with the road network.

I remember once I got stuck at that roundabout with SS33 on a bridge high above it. Several roads underneath SS33 seem to connect to A4 which can already be seen from there. I found the exit to Milan which even underpasses A4, but not to Turin. I couldn't believe that and went 3 times around the roundabout. With a navigator I would have believed that thing fools me.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 09:25 AM   #8373
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I'don't think it was planned to be a by-pass for traffic Turin-Venice passing through. Of course it will be, more as a "safety valve" than a real by-pass. Anyway the connec tion from and to Turin of A4 and SS33/A52 is where it's shown in the post before Yours: using a short stretch of A50. If I guess which roundabout You meen, there is no need to get on it.
The "Pero" interchange was planned mainly to connect A4 with local roads and therefore with parkings at the east entrance of the fair ground. It's quite complex, if there was enough space it would have been quite more simple: town at southside of A4, railway depot on the north side, and then the fair itself which had to be that wide. Althogh SS33/A52 and A4 are at their nearest point, but almost parallel. Not a good situation to make a complete and safe interchange between to motorways.

Never the less: A52 will drain traffic to and from A8, and also traffic getting on A4 off the roads coming north of Milan. These flows are enough to bring A52 to it's limits, without traffic coming from A4
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Google Earth also shows they are expanding the short A52 / SS35 combined segment at Paderno Dugnano.

A52 could be a reasonable alternative in case A4 is congested. It's not really far out of the way compared to bypasses of some other cities (try N104 around Paris, it's almost twice the length of the regular route).
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Old June 10th, 2015, 04:05 PM   #8375
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Old June 10th, 2015, 05:13 PM   #8376
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #8377
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Amazing! The expressway system in Napoli is very complex and the interchanges are so compact. It almost looks like Japan. Shame that the merging lanes are such rubbish.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 12:38 AM   #8378
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Old June 11th, 2015, 01:58 AM   #8379
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Old June 15th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #8380
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According to newspaper "La Repubblica", in Sicily 5,000 km out of the total 20,000 km of roads are closed or otherwise not usable.

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/201...tro-116877376/
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