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Old November 29th, 2008, 02:39 AM   #821
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I don't like all caps either. It's bizarre to see small villages standing out so much. OTOH it might be better for big cities, so you notice them more quickly.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 07:35 PM   #822
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I just found this interesting pic of Trieste bypass. Now I also wonder why they didn't build the green, or at least the red variant. It would spare you a few minutes of driving over those curves to the west.

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Old November 30th, 2008, 07:47 PM   #823
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Oh, it would probably be too steep.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #824
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It would be around 7 %. That's too much for a motorway, especially because it would be mostly in the tunnel.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #825
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SS202 is a motorway?
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #826
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Or expressway, doesn't matter. Too steep,
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #827
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Old December 1st, 2008, 02:56 AM   #828
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It would be around 7 %. That's too much for a motorway, especially because it would be mostly in the tunnel.
Yeah, 7% ina tunnel would be simply unaceptable.

Usually the max is 6% in motorways but much less in tunnels (3% or something like that).
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Old December 1st, 2008, 07:38 AM   #829
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@Verso: through that new tunnel on trieste bypass speed limit is 50 km/h?
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Old December 1st, 2008, 12:31 PM   #830
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I just found this interesting pic of Trieste bypass. Now I also wonder why they didn't build the green, or at least the red variant. It would spare you a few minutes of driving over those curves to the west.

Maybe they wanted to make an exit in that borough, while the two variants run through nothing
And also maybe the bypass slope should have been too much
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Old December 1st, 2008, 01:32 PM   #831
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I just found this interesting pic of Trieste bypass. Now I also wonder why they didn't build the green, or at least the red variant. It would spare you a few minutes of driving over those curves to the west.
maybe they want to bypass that serpentine from here...

(or where does this tunnel go?)
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Old December 1st, 2008, 03:15 PM   #832
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean, could you be more clear? (I'm also a bit tired )

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@Verso: through that new tunnel on trieste bypass speed limit is 50 km/h?
No, it's 80 km/h, through all three new tunnels. But there were two 50-km/h signs on the new expressway for Koper/Capodistria, too bad I didn't make a photo of it, but it was totally unexpected.

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Maybe they wanted to make an exit in that borough, while the two variants run through nothing
Still, that doesn't mean that transit should suffer b/c of that, and they wouldn't demolish the existing part of the SS202, so they would still have an expressway, but it doesn't matter, b/c it would be too steep anyway. On my way back up there was a (Turkish) truck stuck on the expressway, b/c its engine broke down (quite a long and steep expressway), and it didn't have the luck to make it to an SOS stop, and there's no hard shoulder either. I hope no one ran into it.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 03:57 PM   #833
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean, could you be more clear?
check THIS link.

there is a tunnel u/c... where does this go?

maybe this is a bypass of that serpentine section, but a little bit larger what you suggested...
(the other end of this bypass would be at that 90°turn of SS202 at Bagnoli Superiore)


EDIT:

nope.
Ive found the other end of that tunnel...

this tunnel bypasses the valley section of SS202...

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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:05 PM   #834
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This is how it's now.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM   #835
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This is how it's now.
bingo.

(but what was the problem with that section what this tunnel bypasses?
why didnt they make a longer tunnel to bypass that winding section on the hillside?)
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:16 PM   #836
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It would be too steep, that's what we're talking about all the time. (ok, I asked it, but I didn't think of it immediately)
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:33 PM   #837
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I thought a longer tunnel (than yours) wouldnt be too steep, but Ive checked it and I was wrong...

(it would be 5km long for about 280m elevation difference, what is about 5,6% grade...
thats really steep for a tunnel... )
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:36 PM   #838
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So it has to be a very winding and elevated expressway, that's why it's so spectacular. Maybe you could just jump from the upper part of it and land directly in the port, but I'm not sure it would be a safe thing to do.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:48 PM   #839
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nice place for a water slide...
200-300m drop from the top... that would be a guiness record...
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Old December 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM   #840
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SS58 della Carniola? (Carniola is a traditional and historical region of modern Slovenia)
If you can read Italian, here you find the reason why ex SS 58 bears the name of the slovenian region of Carniola:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strada_...della_Carniola

However, thanks for your pictures.
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