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Old September 8th, 2015, 02:08 PM   #8521
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Florence and Palermo are not directly comparable, two very different environments

I found Naples worse than Palermo in terms of behavior, but I only drove in Palermo...
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Old September 8th, 2015, 02:18 PM   #8522
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I know, I just wrote the biggest cities I drove in Italy (still have to visit Milan or Turin). And places like Genua, Verona, Mestre, Padova, Trieste I found ok
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Old September 8th, 2015, 02:53 PM   #8523
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Palermo is something completely different. Look at all sides at all times. Don't assume anything. Outside Palermo it is quite better but it is still Sicily.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 11:44 PM   #8524
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When I drove in Florence and Rome, I found them difficult, but not because of the driving style of cars, but because of those scooters all over the place coming from all directions. I also survived driving in Tirana, so I guess I would survive Palermo too, only that I won't have enough time to really adapt there while staying just one day. But maybe the fact that it will be a Sunday will help and so much crazy traffic .
I guess too.

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But we plan to do a 9-10 days Sicily only trip next year in May
Wise choose.
Try to see such more as possibile.
And if you need advise, don't worry to ask in sicilian thread.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #8525
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Can you show me plans for this conctruction. I have found it one month ago, but now I can not find in again.

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Old September 10th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #8526
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Maybe you can start by telling us where is this located...

EDIT: Found it:
http://www.commissariopedemontana.it...ciato.jsp#nogo
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Old September 10th, 2015, 09:50 PM   #8527
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Can you show me plans for this conctruction. I have found it one month ago, but now I can not find in again.

It's the initial part of "Venetian foothill" higway, in constuction. It be also the extend of Montecchio Maggiore's bypass
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Old September 10th, 2015, 10:21 PM   #8528
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Maybe you can start by telling us where is this located...

EDIT: Found it:
http://www.commissariopedemontana.it...ciato.jsp#nogo
Tnx I found it.
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Old September 11th, 2015, 03:27 PM   #8529
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Region Lombardy just approved the definitive project for the direct connection A4-A35 near Brescia. Now the Infrastructure Ministry must confirm the approval.
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Old September 11th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #8530
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Connection A4 / A35 through SS1dir is quite strange and complicated. There is enough place to built new interchange
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Old September 11th, 2015, 11:19 PM   #8531
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Ss1dir?
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Old September 11th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #8532
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It's SS11dir (southern bypass of Brescia).
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old September 12th, 2015, 08:54 AM   #8533
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Ah ok... It's not "dir" by the way, it's just ss11, or better, now it's sp bs 11,even though nobody calls it that way...
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Old September 12th, 2015, 10:16 AM   #8534
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Ah ok... It's not "dir" by the way, it's just ss11, or better, now it's sp bs 11,even though nobody calls it that way...
So, Google Maps is wrong.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old September 12th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #8535
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It's SS11dir (southern bypass of Brescia).
My mistake SS11dir
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Old September 12th, 2015, 11:50 PM   #8536
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria

new 'Renazza' tunnel





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Old September 12th, 2015, 11:53 PM   #8537
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Reggio Emilia (Emilia-Romagna region)

A1 with new new 'Mediopadana' highspeed railway station






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Old September 14th, 2015, 02:00 PM   #8538
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Very bad weather in Northern Italy caused the small river Nure to overflow and destroy part of the provincial route 654 in province Piacenza:





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Old September 14th, 2015, 02:08 PM   #8539
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That's no quick fix!
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Old September 14th, 2015, 03:38 PM   #8540
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Maybe the 5 Star Movement will build an alternative route?
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