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Old March 17th, 2016, 06:58 AM   #8921
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BTW, the article is wrong.
Of course it is - it's The Independent.

The Independent lost its way as a newspaper about 15 years ago, with actual journalism abandoned in favour of opinion pieces and sensationalist tabloid-esque material for people who hate tabloids and sensationalist stories (so over-embellished stories with little fact checking, told in bland ways on niche topics so it looks like serious and important stuff despite being much-ado-about-nothing, like the article on the A3).

Quality has declined lots in recent years and readership has fallen massively. They will cease to be a printed newspaper within the next two weeks, but quite when hasn't been announced. Their front page (well, first ever advertising wrap-around) yesterday was telling people where you can continue reading, but I still don't think that they have announced the date. I'd imagine, like it's pared down daughter paper (that's really thin), that the website content will only be a view major stories, some views, and the sports section rather than continue to be bloated with the waffle that the Indy has had for years in order to be as thick as serious newspapers.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 02:02 PM   #8922
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Old March 17th, 2016, 04:50 PM   #8923
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BTW, the article is wrong. A3 construction didn't lasted 50 years. It was built in 1964-72 and upgraded in 2003-present.
Stories about A3 also persistently circulate in the German media. Every once in a while there is an article about the 'scandalous' condition of A3, often based on outdated information that may have been true 15 years ago.

It's like that photo of the 'steep' Japanese bridge that circulates the internet media every few months. In reality it's not really steep at all, but the zoom makes it appear as if traffic is driving on a 45 degree incline.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 05:22 PM   #8924
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A3, from Altomonte to Sibari:

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Old March 18th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #8925
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In the 1960s-70s any 2x2 grade-separated road was a motorway. Now standards are more strict, although old substandard motorways have never been downgraded to expressway status.
SS 202 in Trieste was downgraded to expressway. I can't believe it used to be a motorway.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 01:01 AM   #8926
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SS 202 in Trieste was downgraded to expressway. I can't believe it used to be a motorway.
That one was opened in 1988, not in the 1960s! It never had an A-number, though, only the GVT designation (Grande Viabilità Triestina).
However the expressway category wasn't introduced in Italy until 1993.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 12:28 PM   #8927
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In the 1960s-70s any 2x2 grade-separated road was a motorway. Now standards are more strict, although old substandard motorways have never been downgraded to expressway status.
Mmm not really. FiPiLi was opened in 1970 but nobody ever dreamed of calling it motorway, and so many others...
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A3, from Campotenese to Laino Borgo:

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Old March 18th, 2016, 02:57 PM   #8929
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https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autost...tiana-Rabuiese

How many new motorway designations will appear around Trieste? It starts confusing me.
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A3, from Tarsia to Spezzano Albanese:

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A3 SA-RC, from Montalto Uffugo to Tarsia:

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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria, from Morano to Campotenese in the north carriageway:

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Old March 19th, 2016, 01:53 AM   #8933
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How many new motorway designations will appear around Trieste? It starts confusing me.
A4: up to Sistiana exit
RA13: Sistiana (end of A4) - Padriciano
RA14: Opicina (RA13) - Fernetti (SLO border)
Autostrada Sistiana-Rabuiese: two separate sections Padriciano - Cattinara (SS202) and Lacotisce (SS202) - Rabuiese (SLO border)

The section Lacotisce - Rabuiese was classificated as motorway in 2015 and it still has blue expressway signs.

SS202 Trieste port - Cattinara is now an expressway.
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Old March 19th, 2016, 01:56 AM   #8934
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Mmm not really. FiPiLi was opened in 1970 but nobody ever dreamed of calling it motorway, and so many others...
But many old motorways hadn't standards much higher than FiPiLi. Probably it was quite discretional whether a road was classificated as motorway or not.
FiPiLi now it's not even an expressway, just a dual-carriaggeway with speed limit between 70 and 90.
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A3, from Sibari to Morano:

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Old March 19th, 2016, 08:02 PM   #8936
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A landslide occurred today on SS1 in Arenzano, near Genoa.





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Old March 19th, 2016, 10:43 PM   #8937
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Autostrada Sistiana-Rabuiese: two separate sections Padriciano - Cattinara (SS202) and Lacotisce (SS202) - Rabuiese (SLO border)
So why isn't it called "Autostrada Padriciano-Rabuiese"? (I'm not even gonna comment the fact that it's broken between Cattinara and Lacotisce by SS 202, and that Padriciano-Cattinara could just be RA 13)

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The section Lacotisce - Rabuiese was classificated as motorway in 2015 and it still has blue expressway signs.
Would be better if it stayed an expressway since SS 202 and the Slovenian H5 are both expressways.
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A90, from Cassia road to Trionfale road and from Trionfale road to km 22:

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Old March 20th, 2016, 10:51 AM   #8939
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A landslide occurred today on SS1 in Arenzano, near Genoa.
There is no injuries in this accident?
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A truck caught fire yesterday on A1 between Capua and Caianello, in Southern Italy. The motorway has been closed for nearly the whole day, because the fire happened below an overpass that was deformed by the intense heat and risked a collapse. Experts say the overpass cannot be repaired and must be demolished.
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