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Old September 12th, 2016, 03:52 PM   #9281
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1400m not (yet) opened? Is the opened section 14.1km or 12.7km?
12.7km are opened entirely, 1.4km are still not ready.

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Old September 13th, 2016, 04:25 PM   #9282
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Reported flooding yesterday in Puglia. This looks like SS379







Italy has a lot of severe weather. There are frequently flash floods, large hail and occassionaly a strong tornado.

Somewhere I read Italy is the EU country with the most MM of rainfall
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Old September 13th, 2016, 08:39 PM   #9283
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Somewhere I read Italy is the EU country with the most MM of rainfall
1. Slovenia - 1,393 mm
2. Italy - 944 mm
3. Germany - 933 mm

http://www.answers.com/Q/Which_Europ...ghest_rainfall

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Old September 13th, 2016, 09:15 PM   #9284
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Rainfall rates are quite dependent on the regional circumstances. So there are large variations in precipitation within a country. For example Norway has both the wettest and some of the driest areas in Europe. Bergen receives 2,250 mm of precipitation annually, while some valleys in the rain shadow less than 200 km away receive less than 300 mm.

Italy has a lot of severe weather events, but they often occur on different locations, so it doesn't influence the long-term average as much. Flash flooding events can be very local due to supercells moving over a certain area.
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Old September 13th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #9285
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Milan and Rome are in the top ten cities for amount of rain! Milan is Number 2 after Zurich
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Old September 13th, 2016, 10:02 PM   #9286
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Rainfall rates are quite dependent on the regional circumstances. So there are large variations in precipitation within a country. For example Norway has both the wettest and some of the driest areas in Europe. Bergen receives 2,250 mm of precipitation annually, while some valleys in the rain shadow less than 200 km away receive less than 300 mm.

Italy has a lot of severe weather events, but they often occur on different locations, so it doesn't influence the long-term average as much. Flash flooding events can be very local due to supercells moving over a certain area.

Well, regardless we get more rain than any other country bar Slovenia, and concentrated in less 'events' than north European countries
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Old September 13th, 2016, 11:29 PM   #9287
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Apulia is one the most dry regions in Italy, but is notable for its extreme autumnal rainfalls. Consider that in october of last year, average precipitation in Taranto amounted to little more than 300 millimetres of water, as opposed to the norm of 61 millimetres... 16 October will be remembered as a dramatic day (220 mm of rain - 8.7 inches - in 2 hours).
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Old September 14th, 2016, 12:24 AM   #9288
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Slovenia lies entirely in the sub-alpine area. So the rainfall is similar to what we get over a vast territory along the French, Swiss and Austrian borders. But contrary to Atlantic countries we have long dry spells and long rainy events. If you don't like the wheather in Holland just wait fifteen minutes . F you don't like it here, you are busted. It'll stay.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 12:48 AM   #9289
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Slovenia lies entirely in the sub-alpine area. So the rainfall is similar to what we get over a vast territory along the French, Swiss and Austrian borders.
And the wettest place in Italy (Musi) lies 8 km from Slovenia.
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Milan and Rome are in the top ten cities for amount of rain! Milan is Number 2 after Zurich
Yes and Milan is 5th position hottest city in Europe (Average annual temperature)
It's allmost subtropical climate.
And Rome is in third position (behind Lisbon and Athen.)
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Old September 14th, 2016, 06:57 PM   #9291
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Yes and Milan is 5th position hottest city in Europe (Average annual temperature)
It's allmost subtropical climate.
And Rome is in third position (behind Lisbon and Athen.)
Forget about the Koppen climate classification. It's a disaster. Milan, as he sees it, has the same climate as San Paolo, Brazil
Milan has a humid continental climate.

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Old September 15th, 2016, 10:30 PM   #9292
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Other road numbering oddities:

In the province of Brescia there are some provincial roads (SP) that are numbered with Roman numbers. However, other roads with the same number, but Arabic, exist. For example, SP1 and SPI are different roads.
In Brescia province, former national (SS) roads that became provincial are numbered SP BS.
So there are, for example: SPXI, SP11 and SP BS 11, three different roads!

The Metropolitan City of Rome (formerly province of Rome), is split in two areas (North and South), each of them has its own SP numbering scheme. So two SP1, two SP2, two SP3 and so on...
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Old September 15th, 2016, 11:39 PM   #9293
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It's still Province of Rome for me regardless how it's oficially called now. Same with every other second level subnational division in Italy (Except Aosta Valley, which is a region with no provinces but gets counted as one if necessary).

I've found SP 11 and SP BS 11 (labelled as another SP 11) in Brescia province in Google Maps, but not SP XI so far. And no duplicate numbers around Rome so far.
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Old September 16th, 2016, 01:14 AM   #9294
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It's still Province of Rome for me regardless how it's oficially called now. Same with every other second level subnational division in Italy (Except Aosta Valley, which is a region with no provinces but gets counted as one if necessary).

I've found SP 11 and SP BS 11 (labelled as another SP 11) in Brescia province in Google Maps, but not SP XI so far. And no duplicate numbers around Rome so far.
Sp xi runs from Iseo to Rovato.it is not signed as such on Google maps, but it is on openstreetmaps.
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That means SP XI ends at SP BS 11! Italian numbering never ceases to amaze me. I thought Spain was bad.
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In the Italian thread I came across the project to build a spur of A14 around the city of Bari, connecting to SS16 near Mola di Bari:
http://mobilita.regione.puglia.it/im...20Stradale.pdf

In this pdf you can see many more projects, the one I'm referring to is labeled s2013.
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Sp xi runs from Iseo to Rovato.it is not signed as such on Google maps, but it is on openstreetmaps.
I think OSM is superior to GM for the following aspects:
- Borders are more accurate (both national and sub-national)
- Presence of municipal borders
- Road numbers and street names are more accurate (not 100% flawless, but better than Google)
- Usually is more updated than Google (i.e. a new road may appear 1 day after on OSM and 1 week later on GM)
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