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Old October 28th, 2016, 11:21 PM   #9341
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Old October 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM   #9342
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A technician checked the bridge around three hours before, seeing its very bad conditions asked to close immediately the bridge. However, those responsible for this decision wanted a formal inspection from Anas before closing the road, but wasting time with this bureaucracy meant that a truck fully loaded with steel passed over the bridge making it collapse.
The bridge was in bad conditions some month ago. It doesn`t look good on Google Street View...
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Old October 29th, 2016, 03:32 PM   #9343
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Live scene of the bridge collapse caught by CCTV cameras:

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Old October 29th, 2016, 03:33 PM   #9344
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Video taken by a drone after the disaster:

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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 05:16 PM   #9345
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Someone in this topic said that this kind of disaster happens just in southern Italy.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 05:20 PM   #9346
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i drove there nearby this summer and SS36 is generally in poor condition
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Old October 29th, 2016, 05:27 PM   #9347
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i drove there nearby this summer and SS36 is generally in poor condition
The viaduct that collapsed isn't related to SS36, as it carried SP49 that is managed by the Province of Lecco, while SS36 is managed by ANAS.
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The viaduct that collapsed isn't related to SS36, as it carried SP49 that is managed by the Province of Lecco, while SS36 is managed by ANAS.
i was actually refering to objects around SS36. i drove on several Italian superstradas and this one was definitely one of those in poor condition, what is little bit weird regarding to quite heavy traffic that it carries
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Old October 29th, 2016, 06:38 PM   #9349
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The bridge doesn't look too hot on Street View, but on the other hand there are many bridges like that in Italy or other countries like Belgium or Germany.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 10:40 PM   #9350
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The viaduct that collapsed isn't related to SS36, as it carried SP49 that is managed by the Province of Lecco, while SS36 is managed by ANAS.
WTF?

In Croatia all objects crossing highways or state roads are maintained by highways/state roads agency.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 11:11 PM   #9351
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WTF?

In Croatia all objects crossing highways or state roads are maintained by highways/state roads agency.
what if Ž road overpasses the motorway? isn't eglible agency in that case the county one (Županijska uprava za ceste), not state one?
the same as here - strada statale e strada provinciale.
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Old October 30th, 2016, 12:47 AM   #9352
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Object itself should be in management of a higher ranking agency - imagine a forest or farm road crossing of motorway - farmers shouldn't maintain a motorway crossing object. Road itself on an object is managed from other agency.
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Old October 30th, 2016, 11:48 AM   #9353
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Never say never!

http://www.altoadigeinnovazione.it/a...lallungamento/

https://www.stol.it/Artikel/Politik-...aus-dem-Veneto

The Transportation Commitee of the European Parliament has recently discussed the project. The commitee report is to be discussed on 1st November.
Alemagna project was rejected by the EU commitee.

http://www.ansa.it/trentino/notizie/...446267a9e.html

https://www.stol.it/Artikel/Politik-...-Verlaengerung
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Old October 30th, 2016, 02:55 PM   #9354
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^ why it has to be discussed by EU anyway?
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I think it was proposed for Improving the connection and accessibility of the transport infrastructure in Central and Eastern Europe.

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22. Considers it a matter of priority for the socio-economic development of the eastern part of EUSALP to complete the Italian A27 motorway, with an exit in Austria, and to improve the Italian and Austrian road network in this geographical area, by means of appropriate ancillary works
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It turns out the truck that collapsed the SS 36 overpass weighed 108 tons.

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/art...98f77738c.html
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It turns out the truck that collapsed the SS 36 overpass weighed 108 tons.
108tons?? This truck was overloaded twice of more
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:44 PM   #9358
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:50 PM   #9359
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Special transports can be much heavier than regular loads, but they usually need a permit. This bridge does not have a posted weight limit.

I'm not sure if you can call this a 'once-in-a-bridge-lifetime' transport, as this is a bridge that is part of a major exit that serves quite some industry. It's surely not an everyday load, but once in a lifetime?
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Old November 1st, 2016, 09:11 PM   #9360
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Which one will be the next?

Bridge over Sangro river on SS652 near Lanciano, Abruzzo



A viaduct on A6 Turin-Savona





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