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Old January 21st, 2017, 01:43 PM   #9481
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What was the reason of that tragic accident? Malfunction of the vehicle ?
The bus crashed against a concrete pillar of a bridge and caught fire.

The article doesn't say anything about the condition of the bridge after the accident. Of course, with 16 deaths and 39 injures, the condition of a concrete structure, doesn't seem the biggest priority from a journalistic point of view, but an unstable bridge over a busy motorway like A4 can potentially kill or injure other people. Hopefully engineers will check everything.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 10:59 PM   #9482
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What was the reason of that tragic accident? Malfunction of the vehicle ?
Until now, no definitive cause has been reported in Hungarian news sources. Two possible causes have been brought up several times: driver fatigue, or failure of one of the wheels. According to ANSA, the drivers have changed about one hour before the crash, but this was not confirmed by the head of Verona traffic police. The only fact he could ascertain is that the bus has already hit the guard rails dozens of meters before the impact into the bridge pillar.

Hungarian police investigators and medical personnel are heading to the crash site to assist local authorities and prepare repatriation of the bus passengers. Numerous Hungarians living in the area are offering logistical assistance to relatives of the victims.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 11:26 PM   #9483
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International bus drivers are often put under huge pressure to drive very long distances. Last year a story surfaced on the Dutch news that a bus driver drove with his own car from the Netherlands to Bordeaux, and then drove a bus from Bordeaux to Portugal, as if it was a fresh start, while in fact he was already some 11 hours behind the wheel when starting his official leg of the journey to Portugal. Later reports found out this was quite a common occurrence in the international bus business.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 11:45 PM   #9484
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Old January 21st, 2017, 11:46 PM   #9485
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International bus drivers are often put under huge pressure to drive very long distances. Last year a story surfaced on the Dutch news that a bus driver drove with his own car from the Netherlands to Bordeaux, and then drove a bus from Bordeaux to Portugal, as if it was a fresh start, while in fact he was already some 11 hours behind the wheel when starting his official leg of the journey to Portugal. Later reports found out this was quite a common occurrence in the international bus business.
Something like that I had in my high school trip to Italy. The bus driver drove to near Aix-en-Provence and then (after some rest) relayed another bus driver who drove the bus I was on up to that point. The other bus driver then returned to Spain. Not to mention all mileage of Italian autostrade I have clinched was done aboard that bus (The same was true for French autoroutes until I went to Bordeaux).
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 10:18 AM   #9486
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What a new road is built north of Vicenza ? It`s signed as SP111.
Is it future motorway or expressway (superstrada) ?
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 10:44 AM   #9487
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What a new road is built north of Piacenza ? It`s signed as SP111.
Is it future motorway or expressway (superstrada) ?
It's Vicenza, not Piacenza.

It is the Superstrada Pedemontana Veneta, the first tolled expressway in Italy.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 11:07 AM   #9488
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Will it be signed as SP111 ?
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 12:07 PM   #9489
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Nope. SP 111 is the actual name of the actual road that will be included. The future sign will be SPV [Venetian Foothill Highway/Expressway]
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 12:08 PM   #9490
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Will it be signed as SP111 ?
No, this is the number of the old road. It's not already known how will be signed the new expressway.

It's 95km long and should be completed by 2020.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 12:09 PM   #9491
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Nope. SP 111 is the actual name of the actual road that will be included. The future sign will be SPV [Venetian Foothill Highway/Expressway]
Are you sure that SPV is official?
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 04:24 PM   #9492
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No official communication yet.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 05:39 PM   #9493
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When this road will be finished, it`ll be great alternative to detour A4 Venezia - Vicenza in rush hours / holidays
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Old January 24th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #9494
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Are you sure that SPV is official?
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Not, very sure, as said, no official communication.
But, were posted a photo on italian thread were there was a road sign with SPV, on italian motorways style... it's an acronym usually used.

I'll find that photo!
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Old January 24th, 2017, 02:50 PM   #9495
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I've found it!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=375

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Old January 24th, 2017, 03:00 PM   #9496
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Old January 24th, 2017, 03:13 PM   #9497
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Typical Italian confusion. Green sign for a road that IS NOT A MOTORWAY, a brand new acronym that doesn't fit with the others... I hate all this...
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The fact is also that sign will be later removed!

And also the term "superstrada" that it the most far from a tecnical term!
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Old January 24th, 2017, 03:16 PM   #9499
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Why is that?
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Old January 24th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #9500
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Do you recall that overpass that collapsed, few weeks ago, over SS 36 when an overload truck passed on it?
If you don't, here's the video:


It seems that the mistake generating this disaster was metrologic in nature. In fact, this document authorized the truck for a load of 108 quintals (which is a unit encompassing 100 kg):



The truck, however, weighed 108 tons... that is, 10 times more.
Really?

Holy crap, I can't believe that
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