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Old August 21st, 2017, 12:26 PM   #9801
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before 2000 designations were the same. The only difference was that SS roads were still managed by ANAS.
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Old August 24th, 2017, 06:43 PM   #9802
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E.I.A. for Autostrada "Cispadana" (Ferrara-Reggiolo) was approved last 28th July. According to the mayor of Concordia (one of the towns involved) works will begin in 2019.

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Old August 24th, 2017, 06:55 PM   #9803
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Interesting. I think this will mostly serve regional traffic in the Po plains.

Are there (unofficial?) plans to extend it all the way to Cremona or even Milan? I could see this becoming a route from TEEM to Ferrara, serving the densely populated countryside.
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Old August 24th, 2017, 07:09 PM   #9804
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Interesting. I think this will mostly serve regional traffic in the Po plains.

Are there (unofficial?) plans to extend it all the way to Cremona or even Milan? I could see this becoming a route from TEEM to Ferrara, serving the densely populated countryside.
Not properly an extension, but there is the proposed Cremona-Mantova motorway, which will connect to A22 a little more northerly.

Since the Cispadana will be the first regional motorway in Italy, so probabily not supervised by ANAS - there is no need to coordinate it with other projects, but for me it is a pity. A lot of small stretches unconnected one another are coming in Italy (A33, A35, A58 which is not connected to A50) and this trend is really annoying.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 10:59 AM   #9805
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AFAIK seems that would be extended as C-category till the construnction stretches of A15... But I don't know if this plan is also expected.

Yeah, I agree that it's very annoying that there isn't a coordinated plan
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Old September 8th, 2017, 06:03 PM   #9806
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Some numbers about road violations during summer 2017.
In the period 1 July-4 September, for the first time, there was an increase (+12.3 %) in the number of motorcycle riders without helmet.

More than 12000 licenses were withdrawn, and 626880 license points were cut.

http://www.repubblica.it/motori/sezi...C6-P26-S1.6-T1
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Old September 8th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #9807
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This summer in Sicily for the first time in years I saw entire towns with kids riding without helmet. I thought this stupidity had disappeared or at least become marginalised but clearly that is not the case in parts of the south. So hopefully these were more controls rather than more infractions
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Old September 8th, 2017, 07:42 PM   #9808
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This summer in Sicily for the first time in years I saw entire towns with kids riding without helmet. I thought this stupidity had disappeared or at least become marginalised but clearly that is not the case in parts of the south. So hopefully these were more controls rather than more infractions
When I visited Sicily in 2009 I saw plenty of both teenagers and adults riding without helmet, several scooters with two people, and also a couple of 50cc scooters on motorways.
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Old September 10th, 2017, 07:32 PM   #9809
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Altamura (BA), Apulia region

a stretch of SS 96 “Barese” opened to traffic











source: http://www.stradeanas.it/it/puglia-a...ad-altamura-ba
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I drove there in October last year and I'm very glad that this part is finally completed. I suppose that the opened segment is between the interchange with SS99 (to Matera) and Villaggio Le Fontanelle (interchange with SP 97)?
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Old September 11th, 2017, 11:09 PM   #9811
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I suppose that the opened segment is between the interchange with SS99 (to Matera) and Villaggio Le Fontanelle (interchange with SP 97)?
10km from Villaggio Le Fontanelle / Mellitto to north of Altamura. The remaining 3km up to SS99 were announced to be completed by Mid 2018.

Another 1km widening section of S99 is/was also u/c just south of the interchange. OSM shows it open. Is it a mistake?
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Old September 11th, 2017, 11:18 PM   #9812
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SS 640 Agrigento-Caltanissetta, Sicily

Work in progress on II lot: new juction of "Serradifalco"





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Old September 13th, 2017, 12:39 AM   #9813
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Meanwhile in Rome: instead of cutting overgrown bush that covers around 1/4 of the carriaggeway, they opted to reduce the speed limit to 30 kph.

http://video.gelocal.it/nuovavenezia...ta/80066/80480
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:58 AM   #9814
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Old September 15th, 2017, 12:48 AM   #9815
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Construction of the new bridge over Tagliamento on A4, at the border between Veneto and Friuli Venezia Giulia. The old one will be demolished.


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Old September 15th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #9816
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Altamura (BA), Apulia region

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Old September 17th, 2017, 09:16 PM   #9817
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Udine tangenziale

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Old September 17th, 2017, 09:29 PM   #9818
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What is up with the term 'pay toll'? I've seen that in the Balkans as well. It sounds like crooked English. I've seen toll stations / toll plazas being referred to as a 'pay toll' and toll roads being referred to as a 'pay toll'.

I wonder how they came up with that term to use it on road signs. In English it is referred to as a toll road, tollway or turnpike, but not a 'pay toll'. It's the kind of English you would usually find in China or Africa.
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Unless of course it's a verb and object, as in "stop and pay [the] toll," a sign I've seen in New Jersey.
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What is up with the term 'pay toll'? I've seen that in the Balkans as well. It sounds like crooked English. I've seen toll stations / toll plazas being referred to as a 'pay toll' and toll roads being referred to as a 'pay toll'.

I wonder how they came up with that term to use it on road signs. In English it is referred to as a toll road, tollway or turnpike, but not a 'pay toll'. It's the kind of English you would usually find in China or Africa.
I guess that this awkward expression is connected with poor translation and/or Italian influence. When in 1972 in deceased Yugoslavia Slovenian and Croatian authorities opened first two segments of tolled motorways (Vrhnika-Postojna & Zagreb-Karlovac), they simply followed Italian style of design (green motorway signs instead of blue ones - as in former FRG, Switzerland or Austria; tolling the motorways - again opposite of free flow in FRG, CH or A), probably because Italy was percepted as not so hard yet former enemy to Commies as they thought German speaking countries were. So, they designed signs for toll booths with following inscriptions: NAPLATA CESTARINE (hr)/PLAČILO CESTNINE (sl); PAY TOLL (en); PAGAMENTO PEDAGGIO (it); AUTOBAHNGEBÜHR (de). Probably they translate to English with Italian in mind.

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