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Old September 17th, 2017, 10:58 PM   #9821
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And yes, there still exists one Italian style designed portal for Jastrebarsko exit above the Zagreb direction lane (or above Karlovac direction lane, I'm not sure now) some 500 meters before the exit, with rounded edges.


To expand the answer to Slovenia and finish the OT, below are two pictures from opening the segment Vrhnika-Postojna. One can clearly find Italian font, equal as at any Italian motorway from the 1970es:



Avtocesta (sl) or autocesta (hr) is the direct translation from Italian term Autostrada.
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Old September 17th, 2017, 11:20 PM   #9822
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Unless of course it's a verb and object, as in "stop and pay [the] toll," a sign I've seen in New Jersey.
you mean imperative case.
i have also noticed that "pay toll" thing that sounds so chinese (nhf to Chinese people here )

what is the most confusing here in HR, we have it in 4 languages with 4 different phrases:
HR - toll
ENG - pay toll (imperative case)
D - motorway charge
I - toll payment
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Old September 17th, 2017, 11:20 PM   #9823
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What is up with the term 'pay toll'? I've seen that in the Balkans as well. It sounds like crooked English.
"mit gebühr" is also kind of funny. The correct German term is "gebührenpflichtig" or "mautpflichtig".
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Old September 18th, 2017, 12:23 AM   #9824
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you mean imperative case.
i have also noticed that "pay toll" thing that sounds so chinese (nhf to Chinese people here )

what is the most confusing here in HR, we have it in 4 languages with 4 different phrases:
HR - toll
ENG - pay toll (imperative case)
D - motorway charge
I - toll payment


It's a verb and object in the imperative. :-)
I did notice that on the Italian sign, the English was inconsistent in meaning with the other languages. "À péage" would mean something like "with a toll," although I don't think it works without the noun. Maybe they just vaguely felt they needed two words.
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Old September 18th, 2017, 12:41 AM   #9825
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Avtocesta (sl) or autocesta (hr) is the direct translation from Italian term Autostrada.
Words for 'motorway' in most European languages are the direct translation from the Italian term Autostrada, since Italy is (arguably*) the first country where roads for motor-vehicles only has been planned.

*First autostrada was planned in 1921 and opened in 1924. AVUS and Long Island Motor Parkway are older than it.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 03:25 PM   #9826
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I did notice that on the Italian sign, the English was inconsistent in meaning with the other languages. "À péage" would mean something like "with a toll," although I don't think it works without the noun. Maybe they just vaguely felt they needed two words.
that "à péage" thing would be something like "tolled", but in francophone languages there is no verb "to toll" like in english, so there is no direct translation of "tolled" (péagé, pedaggiato, peajado, that simply doesn't exist). afaik there is only in polish direct translation of "tolled" (płatna)
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:21 PM   #9828
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I've read "pedaggiato" in Italian, but it feels like a horrible neologism...
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Old September 21st, 2017, 07:02 PM   #9829
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SS675 Monte Romano est - Cinelli

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SS675 Monte Romano est - Cinelli 6,4 km 1st July 2015 to August 2017

http://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cron...280523ad.shtml
(green on the map is the U/C part)
I found a report from May about the history of the Orte-Civitavecchia superstrada: http://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cron...8da53692.shtml. It also reports that the section u/c is scheduled to be completed by 2018.

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Old September 22nd, 2017, 12:41 PM   #9830
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Carabinieri of Trentino-Alto Adige were given by Autostrada del Brennero (A22) a hydrogen fuel cell car (a Hyundai ix35) for their patrol, for free use until August 2018.




The car has 600 km driving range and 136 HP, and will use the hydrogen filling stations recently opened on the A22.

http://www.repubblica.it/motori/sezi...ider=176119015
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 01:34 PM   #9831
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There has been a collapse inside Gran San Bernardo tunnel yesterday, and the tunnel itself has been closed; all traffic are being re-routed through the Gran San Bernardo pass, Simplon and Chiasso.

At 8.30 am, in the Italian section of the tunnel part of a ventilation structure collapsed: according to the concessionaire, it is not a structural failure.

http://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/...rdo-176125281/
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 03:24 PM   #9832
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A city in the Netherlands has hydrogen buses. They have to be loaded on a flatbed truck and driven 200 kilometers to the nearest hydrogen filling station
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 03:32 PM   #9833
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A city in the Netherlands has hydrogen buses. They have to be loaded on a flatbed truck and driven 200 kilometers to the nearest hydrogen filling station
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 08:12 PM   #9834
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A city in the Netherlands has hydrogen buses. They have to be loaded on a flatbed truck and driven 200 kilometers to the nearest hydrogen filling station
London has a line as well, the RV1, which runs on Hydrogen buses. Don't know where they fill up though, I guess they must have a special hydrogen station in one of the depots.
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Old September 23rd, 2017, 01:30 PM   #9835
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In the Netherlands they are also planning to build one in the north, but apparenlty it's faster to design, test and implement new busses.
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The concept of hydrogen fuel cells is interesting, especially for heavy vehicles where large batteries are cumbersome or impossible. You can't load tonnes worth of batteries onto a 40 ton truck without exceeding weight limits or reducing cargo capacity.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 03:52 PM   #9837
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There is a proposal to expand A4 between Brescia and Padova to 2x4, for a lenght of 146 km.

http://mattinopadova.gelocal.it/regi...sia-1.15884615
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Detailed planimetry for A31 north extension project:

http://www.va.minambiente.it/it-IT/O...Documentazione

more than 1800 pdf files. Enjoy...
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Old September 25th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #9839
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A new stretch of 8.5 km of SS 640 Agrigento-Caltanissetta (Sicily) opened to traffic today.

http://www.stradeanas.it/it/anas-sta...onino-saetta-e


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Old September 25th, 2017, 03:59 PM   #9840
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There is a proposal to expand A4 between Brescia and Padova to 2x4, for a lenght of 146 km.

http://mattinopadova.gelocal.it/regi...sia-1.15884615
It wuold be more useful between Padua East exit and IC with A57 near Dolo...
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