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Old November 16th, 2017, 01:38 PM   #9941
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It was not created to be a main East-West Route. You simply don't go to west of Milan by A35.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:15 AM   #9942
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Road signs in A4 for the new link with A35:





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Old November 18th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #9943
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Milan in both directions will cause confusion to drivers.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 05:16 PM   #9944
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But whatelse shall they write? The destinations in the white fields shall help to decide properly, for those who knew Milan.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #9945
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But whatelse shall they write? The destinations in the white fields shall help to decide properly, for those who knew Milan.
A4: Turin - Varese - Como - CH - Malpensa
A35: Milan centre - Linate
It would allow a more equal distribution of traffic between A4 and A35.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 05:43 PM   #9946
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It's a good point. One destination via two routes on one signage point is a bad idea. For example, if you're going to Torino, should you follow A4 or A35? We know that A4 is the through route, but many people aren't too aware of route numbers and may think A35 is something similar to A21.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 06:09 PM   #9947
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Maybe "MILANO nord" for A4 and "MILANO est" for A35?
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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:20 AM   #9948
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Well, I'm not 100% sure on who decides signage. If, for A4, is Autostrade per l'Italia SpA, I can clearly understand that they left Milan (A4) to have people going to Milan splitting equally.

They'd lose much more cars (and hence $$) if they didn't put "Milan (A4)". 100% of people who doesn't know the route would follow A35.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:30 AM   #9949
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Malpensa sign should be above Orio al Serio sign as Milano stays above Bergamo, imo.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #9950
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For transit traffic (that is, from before the A4-A58 junction to after the A35-A4 junction) the BreBeMi is slightly longer and more expensive, but with much less traffic which compensate everything. I have nearly always used it since it has opened, coming from A9-A8-A4. This link should have been built together with the rest of the motorway...

What is its traffic now, on the most used section?
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Old November 21st, 2017, 06:41 PM   #9951
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A section of expressway SS 106 "Ionica", in the territory of Borgia (Calabria) opened in 2010-2011, now features lanes reductions after part of the carriageway collapsed. Here's a picture:

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Old November 21st, 2017, 06:54 PM   #9952
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A section of the retaining wall has collapsed:

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Old November 21st, 2017, 07:06 PM   #9953
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Sorry, but guard-rails are different. Pictures show different situations.
Anyway, not longer that one month ago, the road was repaired (as You can see the pavement is pretty new), beacuse of infiltrations (of water, I guess): someone made a mistake...
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Old November 21st, 2017, 07:08 PM   #9954
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Strange, the article with accompanying photos was posted today: http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...3c6f067f.shtml
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Old November 21st, 2017, 08:56 PM   #9955
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Strange, the article with accompanying photos was posted today: http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...3c6f067f.shtml
Yes, that wall collapsed last June:
http://www.catanzaroinforma.it/notiz...enimento.html#

They mixed them up.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 03:41 PM   #9956
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Italian government overruled the outcome of EIA, by approving the project for expressway SS675 between the junction with SS1 and Monte Romano. It will be 18 km of dual carriageway, for an expenditure of 472,23 M€.

http://www.stradeeautostrade.it/noti...lultimo-lotto/

I was surprised by the fact that the government can overrule the decision by EIA committee. It's the first time I read something like that.
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Old December 12th, 2017, 10:32 PM   #9957
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I don't understand why there should be no possibility to widen A22 between Bolzano and Trento.....!? Due to my opinion it would be very necessary.
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Old December 12th, 2017, 10:42 PM   #9958
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Wichtige - wenn auch schon oft angesprochene - Lösungen für den Verkehr auf der A22 seien auch die Verlegung des Güterverkehrs auf Schienen und die Mauterhöhung für Lastwagen auf der A22.
I don't have traffic volume data for Italy, but Asfinag reports an average workday truck volume of 7,900 at the Brenner Pass. While that's a substantial amount of trucks (significantly more than at the Gotthard), it's nothing extraordinary compared to Central Europe or perhaps even the rest of Italy, where truck volumes are often in the 12,000 - 18,000 range on major corridors.

Also, the worst traffic is usually on days that trucks are banned from driving, so a shift to rail - while maybe useful - won't do much to alleviate congestion on A22.

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Allerdings, so betont Kompatscher: „In Richtung Norden haben wir schon allein aus rein technischen Gründen keine Möglichkeit, eine 3. Fahrspur anzulegen. Dazu müsste man eine zweite Autobahn bauen - und das schließen wir aus.“
It likely requires a very expensive rebuild of the existing motorway, or a new carriageway, for example turning 2+2 into 3+2+2 (3 + 4).
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Old December 13th, 2017, 08:39 AM   #9959
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Brennerpass is not the problem, Sterzing toll booth is. During vacation days it becomes a major bottleneck.
Southbound, the major bottleneck is represented by Affi junction. It is heavily used by anyone who is going West towards Milan, using the SR450 expressway to Peschiera and then entering A4, saving tolls and a bunch of km. The Affi junction is dramatically unable to handle this large volume of traffic, so the queue at the junction reaches well into A22. You can expand to as many lanes as you want, but you will not solve the problem unless you transform SR450 into a direct autostrada spur, with no toll barriers.
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Old December 13th, 2017, 10:21 AM   #9960
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Widening is most problematic in areas with long hillside viaducts, that are mostly north of Bolzano. Technically everything is possible, but in this case all solutions are very expensive.
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