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Old June 21st, 2007, 05:07 PM   #81
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM   #82
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Why the two paralleling motorways here?

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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:45 PM   #83
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Why the two paralleling motorways here?

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The section that you can see with 3 lanes is the real motorway, that passes the new tunnels.

The parallel section, with only 2 lanes, is the old motorway, that passes through the older tunnels, that, after a renewal, today is used for the "Tangenziale" of Vicenza.


So they are parallel for a short part, between Vicenza Ovest and the junction with the S.P. 247.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:54 PM   #84
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^ These two tunnels gotta be the most beautiful in the world!
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:21 PM   #85
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:34 PM   #86
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:42 PM   #87
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:58 PM   #89
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Why the two paralleling motorways here?
As TohrAlkimista said the tracks on the right are Vicenza bypass (previously old stretches of A4 'Torino-Trieste' highway)

There are many cases in Italy where bypass and expressways for local traffic run just beside stretches of 'long distance' main highways
The most famous one is probably Bologna tangenziale

Here a coupple of pics of Bologna (in the center A14 highway; on the two sides the city bypass)

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Now they're working to add the third lane





http://www.autostrade.it/en/opere/a1...html?initPos=2




Here the bypass of Modena (not far from Bologna) side-by-side with the A1 (even here pics are a bit outdated: this stretch of A1 got now 4 lanes since at least one year)

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Old June 21st, 2007, 09:32 PM   #90
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Where is this?

Also I remember those two narrower Vicenca tunnels 10 years ago, when there was no tangenziale there and they were abandoned and full of weeds.

When was A4 between Venezia and Milano widened to 3+3?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 09:46 PM   #91
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Where is this?
It is viadotto Italia, in Calabria, on A3 (Salerno - Reggio Calabria) highway
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When was A4 between Venezia and Milano widened to 3+3?
If I'm not wrong there are already stretches with 2 lanes between Venezia and Trieste

The rest of the highway go 3 lanes since so many years I don't remember exactly when they 'upgraded' it
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Old June 21st, 2007, 10:45 PM   #92
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Naples Tangenziale(urban highway)

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This box,named Telepass,enables you not to stop at the "casello"(how to say it in english?? ) for the highway rates payment





The most famous italian brand on our highways

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If I'm not wrong there are already stretches with 2 lanes between Venezia and Trieste
What do you mean? Did you mean 3 lanes (each direction)? No, there are "only" 2 lanes (each direction) between Venice and Trieste (except by Venezia (Mestre), until the interchange with the A27).


Anyway, could someone list ALL those parallel motorways/expressways, serving as city/town bypasses? I know they are by Vicenza, Bologna, Verona, Udine, and apparently Modena. Any other?
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 11:21 AM   #94
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What do you mean? Did you mean 3 lanes (each direction)?
No sorry I understood he meant 3 lanes upgrade on the whole A4 run (for that I specified there are already 2 lanes stretches) and not just between Milano end Venezia as keber wrote (he wrote it! Can I read or what? )

Sorry for the misunderstanding
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 12:12 PM   #95
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 12:43 PM   #96
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E45 freeway - a 'ghost' main highway crossing Italy

There is a 'hidden' motorway in Italy which starts from Ravenna to end at Orte

It is a doubble tracks two lanes motorway, with no fares.. did you know it?




It is not so clearly evidenced (normally) on the maps: you know, maybe Autostrade spa preferes people use its toll highways and probably made 'pression' over main road maps 'designer' (in Italy is TCI - Touring Club Italiano - with no doubt)

Infact you can clearly see it on Michelin's maps

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Here a realy interesting link:

it explains how it works the Italian Motorways System: http://www.geocities.com/marcelmonterie/i.htm
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Old July 9th, 2007, 01:11 PM   #98
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Is it really new Genova bypass in construction? I've seen it on roadmap of Italy, so I wonder.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 01:52 PM   #99
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There is a 'hidden' motorway in Italy which starts from Ravenna to end at Orte
Funny ending this highway has near, nothing....

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...&t=k&z=17&om=1

were is it supposed to go?
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Old July 9th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #100
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To Civitavecchia

I think (but it's a speculation) that Autostrade spa pressed not to end that track; so people are oblidged, in some way, to use their toll highways

Past Government proposed to change E-45 into a toll highway... I think it wuold be good if that means its 'completion (to Venezia and to Civitavecchia) and a more integrated network
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