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Old December 15th, 2017, 02:18 PM   #9981
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Plate recognition makes it easier to clone than transponders. Better yet, have both. I also agree with a central European registry of vehicles.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 02:19 PM   #9982
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Plate recognition makes it easier to clone than transponders. Better yet, have both. I also agree with a central European registry of vehicles.
It should be useful also to address fines and to check if vehicles are insured and if they have passed the revision.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #9983
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Funds for the upgrade of Lodi's SP415, lot 2.2 between Zelo Buon Persico (A58) and Spino d'Adda, have been secured. The 3.2 km of expressway upgrade will cost 23.5 M€.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 06:34 PM   #9984
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It should be useful also to address fines and to check if vehicles are insured and if they have passed the revision.
Actually anything that removes Italian tollgates will be better than today.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #9985
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That sound interesting that it is possible to use the Telepass at France, Portugal and Spain soon.
It is possible to use the France BIP&Go Liber-t box also at Spain. I hope that they would expand to Italy, so I would like to order it.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 09:49 PM   #9986
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The "Pedemontana" motorway uses a plate recognition system called "free flow". It can be a good experience to overcome the problems this system may have.
How do they manage plates with identical numbering, but from different different nations? Does the system recognize the letter on the blu strip on the left? The european flag, or the albanian eagle?
In general: which problems do they have with all possible cases of abuse or not? Did the already think about possible, practical solutions?
"Free flow" is also an experiment, the experiences shall be kept for futur applications, even if it will fail in this first one.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 10:20 PM   #9987
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Should not have been a problem with good cameras.

What I am not sure is if you put some dirt on it, if there is a mist, ice on it, ...
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Old December 18th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #9988
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Today the semi-junction "Sasso Marconi Nord" on the A1, just south of Bologna, has been inaugurated. It works only to and from Bologna. It features is the first Telepass-only toll booth interchange in the network.

It is expected to attract 10 ktransits per day (23% of trucks) relieving SS64 from its daily commute traffic and queues.
It costed 10 M€.

http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/bolo...coni-1.3615861

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Old December 18th, 2017, 05:24 PM   #9989
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Ex-minister for Infrastructures during Berlusconi government, Altero Matteoli, was killed today in an accident on SS1 Aurelia.

Curiously, Matteoli was one of the biggest sponsors of A12 completion, which should have run parallel to SS1 and in many cases would have replaced it entirely.

http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca...-C8-P1-S1.8-T1
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Old December 18th, 2017, 05:34 PM   #9990
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A2 del Mediterraneo - From Laino Borgo to Padula:

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Old December 18th, 2017, 11:17 PM   #9991
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It features the first Telepass-only toll booth on the network.
First? What are then numerous other Telepass-only toll booths?
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Old December 18th, 2017, 11:21 PM   #9992
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Maybe the entire interchange is Telepass only?

Japan uses these on some interchanges, where you can only pay with transponder, not cash or cards.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 11:25 PM   #9993
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First? What are then numerous other Telepass-only toll booths?
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Maybe the entire interchange is Telepass only?

Japan uses these on some interchanges, where you can only pay with transponder, not cash or cards.
Uh yes, sorry about that. What I meant is that the entire interchange is Telepass-only.
I can't wait to see the many blockings and disruptions caused by non-Telepass cars trying to use the interchange...
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Old December 21st, 2017, 12:15 PM   #9994
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Italian Ministry for Infrastructures and Transports has published the annual report on road accidents, in cooperation with the Italian Institute for Statistics. It regards year 2016.


In absolute numbers, in 2016 there were 175,791 accidents, 249,175 wounded and 3,283 fatalities.
For the first time in 15 years it is recorded a yearly rise in accidents (0.7%) and wounded (0.9%) but there is a decline in fatalities (-4.2%).
Between 2001 and 2016 accidents and wounded both were reduced by 33.2%, while fatalities were more than halved (-53.7%).
Urban roads recorded three quarters of the total crashes but less than half of the total fatalities. Motorways recorded 5% of the crashes and 8% of the fatalities.

All the documents can be found here (italian only):
http://www.mit.gov.it/documentazione...rimento-alla-0
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 12:14 PM   #9995
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SS195 expressway

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SS195 expressway is being constructed south of Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy.

Sarroch-north of Sarroch 1 km ? to 12 August 2017

Sarroch-Pula 4 km ? to late 2017

https://www.openstreetmap.org/search...39.0423/8.9937

http://www.stradeanas.it/it/sardegna...-di-sarroch-da
Is there more info about the project?

The press release reports about a 1km and a 4km section of lot 3 but also mentions a 8km section lot 1. Lot 2 in the south is 2-laned only?

"sarà riaperto al traffico" is translated "reopened". Is it a new expressway or an old (2-laned?) improved to expressway standard?

If I got it right:

Lot 1 has a length of about 8.5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...;98880;62227;0
Lot 3.2 has a length of about 5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...640;156569;0;0 (it seems to be opened now, any info when it was opened?)
Lot 3.1 has a length of about 2km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...518;186930;0;0 (the section "Sarroch - Zona Industriale" opened last August?)
Lot 2 has a length of about 3.5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...107013;20599;0 (also 2x2 according to OSM?)

Am I wrong?

In addition, there seems to be another 4km future expressway section: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...65521;156211;0 Is it u/c?
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2017 is not yet over but.... is there any info if the announced completion dates are still up-to-date? Is A18 still expected to be opened next week? Are there new estimates?

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2017 opening:
A18: Rosolini – Ispica/Pozzallo 8km (June 2014 to 2017) – projectmap
SS223: north of Casale di Pari – Casale di Pari 2km (2013 to 2017) – projectmap
SS729: Monti-West – Monti/Telti 6.4km (February 2015 to 2017?) – projectmap
SR8: Talsano-North – Pulsano-East 11km (August 2014 to 2017?) – ? – map
SS729: Martis (SS132) – east of Martis ~2km (August 2014 to Late 2017) – projectmap
SS96 Barese: Toritto – Modungo/Bitetto 9km (December 2013 to December 2017) – ? – map

2018 opening:

SS106: west of Palizzi Marina – east of Palizzi Marina 2.3km (August 2006 to March 2018) – projectmap
SS640: Caltanissetta-Favarella – east of Caltanissetta-Xirbi ~19km (April 2012 to Early 2018) – projectmap
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 12:41 PM   #9997
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As far as I know, A18 should open in March 2019, with works ending December 2018.
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As far as I know, A18 should open in March 2019, with works ending December 2018.
The 2nd section up to Modica? But I think that the first section Rosolini – Ispica/Pozzallo was announced to be opened earlier...
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The 2nd section up to Modica? But I think that the first section Rosolini – Ispica/Pozzallo was announced to be opened earlier...
Hmmm, I didn't know they were going to open that section first.

Articles from August 2017 do not look happy, though:

http://www.siracusanews.it/autostrat...vita-inaudita/

http://www.siracusanews.it/dal-19-lu...siracusa-gela/

Looks like works have stopped in July. I highly doubt opening times won't change, probably far in the future.

And they will lose EU funds, apparently.
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Is there more info about the project?

The press release reports about a 1km and a 4km section of lot 3 but also mentions a 8km section lot 1. Lot 2 in the south is 2-laned only?

"sarà riaperto al traffico" is translated "reopened". Is it a new expressway or an old (2-laned?) improved to expressway standard?

If I got it right:

Lot 1 has a length of about 8.5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...;98880;62227;0
Lot 3.2 has a length of about 5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...640;156569;0;0 (it seems to be opened now, any info when it was opened?)
Lot 3.1 has a length of about 2km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...518;186930;0;0 (the section "Sarroch - Zona Industriale" opened last August?)
Lot 2 has a length of about 3.5km: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...107013;20599;0 (also 2x2 according to OSM?)

Am I wrong?

In addition, there seems to be another 4km future expressway section: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=39...65521;156211;0 Is it u/c?
The section opened in August is a duplication of the existing road.
The other opened section is much older, certainly before 2014, so it's not relevant for your project.
The U/C section in the south will be a new alignment.
I've not (yet) info about the continuation toward North
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