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Old April 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM   #1021
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SS143 - Sandigliano town.


SP288 - Biella bypass.


A4 - Mestre, no comment. 27.06.2008.
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Old April 19th, 2009, 02:32 PM   #1022
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What's the widest stretch of motorway in Italy ?

What's the progress on Mestre new bypass ?
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Old April 19th, 2009, 02:56 PM   #1023
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What's the progress on Mestre new bypass ?
Edit: It was opened for traffic on 8th February, 2009.

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Old April 19th, 2009, 03:10 PM   #1024
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What's the widest stretch of motorway in Italy ?
i guess A1 Tangenziale di Modena. 4+4, SOS lanes and laterals 2+2 with SOS lanes
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Old April 20th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #1025
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the question is answered in an international effort...
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Old April 20th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #1026
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i guess A1 Tangenziale di Modena. 4+4, SOS lanes and laterals 2+2 with SOS lanes
With lateral lanes of Modena Tangenziale it is very likely it is the wider highway stretch
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Old April 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #1027
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Let's tell you something about A4 Torino-Milano construction of emergency lane (they ended the stretch between Torino and Novara)
I find interesting the new interchanges and ramps... but I also find very interesting the renewal of highways bus stations
Infact the stretch between Torino and Milano ever had dedicated and frequent bus stations of 'Autostradale' service...
New stations are 'wider', with dedicated lanes to allow the busses to get in and out the station more properly (before they were a sort of big SOS parking), new and better 'shelters' for passengers, and modern car parks
Unfortunately there are not streetview pics of these last ones, just satellite images


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An old type one still waiting for 'upgrade'

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Old April 20th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #1028
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Question for the Italian members here: I've lived in Naples for a while and I was wondering if the viaducts and bridges have been built to be earthquake-proof.

In a worst case scenario, an eruption of Mount Vesuvius would be preceded by an earthquake. If all the major highways collapse, you wouldn't be able to evacuate all those people in time. Has that been taken into consideration?
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Old April 20th, 2009, 04:40 PM   #1029
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Question for the Italian members here: I've lived in Naples for a while and I was wondering if the viaducts and bridges have been built to be earthquake-proof.

In a worst case scenario, an eruption of Mount Vesuvius would be preceded by an earthquake. If all the major highways collapse, you wouldn't be able to evacuate all those people in time. Has that been taken into consideration?
Sincerely I don't know if they are eq proof.
Surely Napoli Tangenziale, A1 (former A2) and A3 were built in '60s, before there were any antisysmic legislations
That doesn't mean they couldn't front properly a quake, but I sincerely don't know if there were any kind of verification on 'em or/and evenctually adequation

I remember that during the quake of 1980 (which was not properly in Naples, but it was stronger than the one of 2 weeks ago in Abruzzo, and caused many damages and deaths even in Naples) there were not particular problems of this kind... anyway Naples is not on a high risk sysmic zone: it's in a medium zone

About Vesuvio volcano: actually people (even in Italy) normally think it is a danger for the city itself in case of eruption. That's not true: it is a danger for the Eastern MA of Naples, the municipalities laying just on the border of the volcano (as Pompei or Ercolano, for istance, as 2000 years ago)
The strongest eruption ever remembered infact is the famous one of Roman age and destroyed Pompei and Ercolano, didn't reach Naples at all.
There were many other eruptions during the centuries and no one affected Naples directely: the last one was during the Second World War in 1944.

Anyway I don't mean there are nothing to be worried of, (I don't think in a massive eruption everything will go right: over all for the thousand houses built without permission in the critical area near the Volcano mouth) but to be moderatley 'awared' to be prepared. They've done even massive exercitations of evacuation of 'red zone' near the volcano with the partecipation of over 100k citizens... then, respect earthquake, volcanos eruptions can be forecasted even weeks in advance.
Even on Pompei devastating eruption ancient Romans were awared by dozens of little quakes in past days... unfortunately they didn't know Vesuvio was a volcano (it was a sleeping volcano for thousands years and its shape was the one of an ordinary mountain) till its top litterally exploded
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Old April 20th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #1030
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Oh that would annoy you, wouldn't it? All this time everybody thinks it's a normal mountain, then its head explodes. Evil.

I'm Dutch of course, so the worst danger I'm used to is living beneath sea level. We don't have any volcanoes here and it struck me as a pretty risky place to keep a major city.

Do love Naples though, fantastic city.

Thanks for your detailed answer
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Old April 20th, 2009, 05:49 PM   #1031
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Anyway, even if my parents are from Naples, I'm from Milan and the worst danger I'm used to is crossing street walkin' off pedestrian crossing
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Old April 20th, 2009, 07:50 PM   #1032
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Wow, I didn't know the Milano-Torino motorway had bus stops.
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Old April 21st, 2009, 11:10 AM   #1033
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Anyway, even if my parents are from Naples, I'm from Milan and the worst danger I'm used to is crossing street walkin' off pedestrian crossing
Dangerous enough in Milan
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Old April 21st, 2009, 11:15 AM   #1034
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Wow, I didn't know the Milano-Torino motorway had bus stops.

This is a pdf of the Milano-Torino 'Autostradale' bus service timetable: the stops between Milano inizio A4 and Settimo Torinese are on the motorway; the other ones within the cities of Milan and Turin

http://www.autostradale.it/pdf/Milan...al01012009.pdf
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Old April 21st, 2009, 05:35 PM   #1035
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Streetview pics of urban expressways in Rome

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This is going to be demolished
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Old April 21st, 2009, 05:59 PM   #1036
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Always Rome

GRA (ring road)

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Old April 22nd, 2009, 04:58 PM   #1037
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This is going to be demolished
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the infamous "tangenziale est"

someone may recognize this one because is featured in one of fantozzi's movies
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 05:09 PM   #1038
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This is for everyone who didn't know the motorroad sign existed in Italy too. What's the general speed limit on such roads? 90 km/h?
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Old April 23rd, 2009, 03:03 PM   #1039
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Noooo.....ma demoliscono la tangenziale di Fantozzi? che peccato
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Old April 23rd, 2009, 03:31 PM   #1040
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Surely the ugliest thing to see, when arriving into Rome with train (apart from jungle of TV-antennas on residential buildings)
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