[I] Autostrade e Superstrade • Italian highways and freeways - Page 6

aby_since82 · July 10th, 2007, 11:22 PM

I LOVE ITALY

I don't speak english very well (neanche l'italiano) but, all i wanna say is: Nella prossima vita voglio essere italianoooooooo

ciao a tutti sono bellissime le autostrade italiane.

frozen · July 11th, 2007, 01:03 PM

Impressive Autostrade, thanks for sharing your pics!

PD-Autogrill is quite popular in Spanish Autovias and Autopistas too

Boeing! · July 11th, 2007, 05:53 PM

Autogrill is an italian company

***GENIUS LOCI*** · July 12th, 2007, 12:30 PM

Rustichella rulez!

***GENIUS LOCI*** · July 12th, 2007, 07:48 PM

Time for some pics of Torino motorways network

***ChrisZwolle*** · July 12th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Italian Autostrada's are very OK, but you have to work on signage. It's too minimal on motorways.

keber · July 12th, 2007, 08:48 PM

Yes, especially the lack of distance signs.

So, what's about Genova bypass? I can't find anything on the net, at least not in English language.

EuroMaster · July 13th, 2007, 12:31 AM

I really like all those (urban) tunnels and viaducts!

Bahnsteig4 · July 13th, 2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Rustichella rulez!

True, but do you know Autogrill's "Positano"?

TohrAlkimista · July 17th, 2007, 03:16 PM

One of the most important development of the italian network, the "Passante of Mestre", is going fast.

The first part will be probably completed 300 days in advance.

The inauguration would take place between the 2nd and the 6th of August.

Here some maps of the entire project:

*The blue part shows the entire project
*The Green one is the actual motorway
*The Yellow circled part is the new part nearly completed

Instead in this map, the nearly completed part is the section 1:

Here a closer view of the section 1:

TohrAlkimista · July 17th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Here a video dedicated to the Passante: http://www.ilpassantedimestre.com/video.htm

And some random pics, not really new unfortunately,

anyway a good view...

Bahnsteig4 · July 17th, 2007, 09:36 PM

I didn't know that this was planned. So this motorway avoids the toll stations around the Venetian area?
If so, good for all!

***ChrisZwolle*** · July 17th, 2007, 09:52 PM

Well, the Autostrade 4 goes right through Mestre, a city of 170.000, it also serves Venezia, a city of 270.000.
This is one of Italias most congested motorways.

TohrAlkimista · July 17th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidkunz/VIE

I didn't know that this was planned. So this motorway avoids the toll stations around the Venetian area?
If so, good for all!

jep, at the end, this bypass is going to be built...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1491

Well, the Autostrade 4 goes right through Mestre, a city of 170.000, it also serves Venezia, a city of 270.000.
This is one of Italias most congested motorways.

yes, the traffic is incredible.

The entire area between Mestre+Venezia and the rest of Veneto serves more than 4 milion people, but, most important thing, serves all the traffic of TIR coming from eastern Europe, going to the rest of Italy.

This infrastructure is really foundamental!

Nephasto · July 18th, 2007, 01:09 AM

Is the bypass going to be 3+3?
After the bypass, in the direction of Milan (west of it) the A4 already has 3+3, right?

It's certainly going to be very usefull this bypass!

wyqtor · July 18th, 2007, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephasto

After the bypass, in the direction of Milan (west of it) the A4 already has 3+3, right?

Yes. It's one of the coolest motorways I've been on - especially with those Autogrills over the driveway!

The existing stretch of A4 through Mestre is 3+3 also - but they are very narrow.

***ChrisZwolle*** · July 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM

2x3 lanes can only carry 120.000 - 140.000 vehicles a day. 2x3+2x3 can carry 250.000

TohrAlkimista · July 18th, 2007, 10:54 AM

Some infos about the:

Technical Data

* Total Length: 32,3 km.
* Galleries: 8 sections. The longest one is 400m long and the shortest 60m
* Viaducts: 4
* Passages over rivers 14 with bridges of single span between 25 and 35 m
* Connections with other Motorways: 3 (A4 VE-PD at Pianiga/Mirano, A27 Mestre-BL at Mogliano, A4 VE-TS at Quarto d’Altino)
* Barriers: 6

Today the actual bypass of Mestre carries between 150.000 and 170.000 cars, with an annual growth of 4%.

Unfortunately I can't find exactly the number of lanes, but I think that they are for some parts 2+2 and mostly 3+3!

***GENIUS LOCI*** · July 18th, 2007, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyqtor

Yes. It's one of the coolest motorways I've been on - especially with those Autogrills over the driveway!

Those 'bridge' Autogrills are very common on all Italian highways

Quote:

The existing stretch of A4 through Mestre is 3+3 also - but they are very narrow.

Infact Mestre bypass was once 2 lanes: they upgraded it at 3 but the problem was it mostly stands on an el track; so they 'used' the emergency lane to design newly the whole track with 3 lanes but narrower

Mestre bypass with two lanes (+emergency lane)

Third lane project

http://www.autovepd.it/t3c/index.html

Today with the third lane
I litterally mean 'today'

TohrAlkimista · July 18th, 2007, 11:27 AM

It's absurd all that "heavy" traffic!

July 11th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#102
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keber Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Slovenia Posts: 7,963 Likes (Received): 96	Yes, especially the lack of distance signs. So, what's about Genova bypass? I can't find anything on the net, at least not in English language.

July 17th, 2007, 03:16 PM	#110
TohrAlkimista Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,377 Likes (Received): 54	One of the most important development of the italian network, the "Passante of Mestre", is going fast. The first part will be probably completed 300 days in advance. The inauguration would take place between the 2nd and the 6th of August. Here some maps of the entire project: The blue* part shows the entire project The Green* one is the actual motorway The Yellow* circled part is the new part nearly completed Instead in this map, the nearly completed part is the section 1: Here a closer view of the section 1: __________________ TohrFlickr \|\|\| \|\|\| \|\|\|

July 17th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#111
TohrAlkimista Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,377 Likes (Received): 54	Here a video dedicated to the Passante: http://www.ilpassantedimestre.com/video.htm And some random pics, not really new unfortunately, anyway a good view... __________________ TohrFlickr \|\|\| \|\|\| \|\|\| Last edited by TohrAlkimista; July 17th, 2007 at 03:53 PM.

July 17th, 2007, 09:36 PM	#112
Bahnsteig4 . Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna. Posts: 5,765 Likes (Received): 1	I didn't know that this was planned. So this motorway avoids the toll stations around the Venetian area? If so, good for all! __________________ VIENNA - Should Europe fear this city? Austrian Forum - Support our Skybar! Yes, for fuck's sake, all pictures I post were TAKEN BY ME

July 17th, 2007, 09:52 PM	#113
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,773 Likes (Received): 450	Well, the Autostrade 4 goes right through Mestre, a city of 170.000, it also serves Venezia, a city of 270.000. This is one of Italias most congested motorways. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

July 18th, 2007, 01:09 AM	#115
Nephasto Enlightened user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Porto Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 31	Is the bypass going to be 3+3? After the bypass, in the direction of Milan (west of it) the A4 already has 3+3, right? It's certainly going to be very usefull this bypass! __________________ Long live rail freight!!

July 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM	#117
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,773 Likes (Received): 450	2x3 lanes can only carry 120.000 - 140.000 vehicles a day. 2x3+2x3 can carry 250.000 __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

July 18th, 2007, 10:54 AM	#118
TohrAlkimista Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,377 Likes (Received): 54	Some infos about the: Technical Data * Total Length: 32,3 km. * Galleries: 8 sections. The longest one is 400m long and the shortest 60m * Viaducts: 4 * Passages over rivers 14 with bridges of single span between 25 and 35 m * Connections with other Motorways: 3 (A4 VE-PD at Pianiga/Mirano, A27 Mestre-BL at Mogliano, A4 VE-TS at Quarto d’Altino) * Barriers: 6 Today the actual bypass of Mestre carries between 150.000 and 170.000 cars, with an annual growth of 4%. Unfortunately I can't find exactly the number of lanes, but I think that they are for some parts 2+2 and mostly 3+3! __________________ TohrFlickr \|\|\| \|\|\| \|\|\|

July 18th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#120
TohrAlkimista Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,377 Likes (Received): 54	It's absurd all that "heavy" traffic! __________________ TohrFlickr \|\|\| \|\|\| \|\|\|

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