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Old July 11th, 2007, 12:22 AM   #101
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I LOVE ITALY I don't speak english very well (neanche l'italiano) but, all i wanna say is: Nella prossima vita voglio essere italianoooooooo ciao a tutti sono bellissime le autostrade italiane.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 02:03 PM   #102
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Impressive Autostrade, thanks for sharing your pics!

PD-Autogrill is quite popular in Spanish Autovias and Autopistas too
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Old July 11th, 2007, 06:53 PM   #103
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Autogrill is an italian company
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Old July 12th, 2007, 01:30 PM   #104
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Rustichella rulez!

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Old July 12th, 2007, 08:48 PM   #105
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Time for some pics of Torino motorways network

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Old July 12th, 2007, 08:50 PM   #106
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Italian Autostrada's are very OK, but you have to work on signage. It's too minimal on motorways.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 09:48 PM   #107
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Yes, especially the lack of distance signs.

So, what's about Genova bypass? I can't find anything on the net, at least not in English language.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 01:31 AM   #108
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I really like all those (urban) tunnels and viaducts!
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Old July 14th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #109
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Rustichella rulez!
True, but do you know Autogrill's "Positano"?
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Old July 17th, 2007, 04:16 PM   #110
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One of the most important development of the italian network, the "Passante of Mestre", is going fast.

The first part will be probably completed 300 days in advance.

The inauguration would take place between the 2nd and the 6th of August.


Here some maps of the entire project:



*The blue part shows the entire project
*The Green one is the actual motorway
*The Yellow circled part is the new part nearly completed


Instead in this map, the nearly completed part is the section 1:



Here a closer view of the section 1:

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Old July 17th, 2007, 04:33 PM   #111
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Here a video dedicated to the Passante: http://www.ilpassantedimestre.com/video.htm


And some random pics, not really new unfortunately,

anyway a good view...























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Old July 17th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #112
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I didn't know that this was planned. So this motorway avoids the toll stations around the Venetian area?
If so, good for all!
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Old July 17th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #113
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Well, the Autostrade 4 goes right through Mestre, a city of 170.000, it also serves Venezia, a city of 270.000.
This is one of Italias most congested motorways.
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Old July 17th, 2007, 11:05 PM   #114
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I didn't know that this was planned. So this motorway avoids the toll stations around the Venetian area?
If so, good for all!
jep, at the end, this bypass is going to be built...

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Well, the Autostrade 4 goes right through Mestre, a city of 170.000, it also serves Venezia, a city of 270.000.
This is one of Italias most congested motorways.
yes, the traffic is incredible.

The entire area between Mestre+Venezia and the rest of Veneto serves more than 4 milion people, but, most important thing, serves all the traffic of TIR coming from eastern Europe, going to the rest of Italy.

This infrastructure is really foundamental!
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #115
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Is the bypass going to be 3+3?
After the bypass, in the direction of Milan (west of it) the A4 already has 3+3, right?

It's certainly going to be very usefull this bypass!
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Old July 18th, 2007, 10:24 AM   #116
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After the bypass, in the direction of Milan (west of it) the A4 already has 3+3, right?
Yes. It's one of the coolest motorways I've been on - especially with those Autogrills over the driveway!

The existing stretch of A4 through Mestre is 3+3 also - but they are very narrow.
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2x3 lanes can only carry 120.000 - 140.000 vehicles a day. 2x3+2x3 can carry 250.000
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Old July 18th, 2007, 11:54 AM   #118
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Some infos about the:



Technical Data

* Total Length: 32,3 km.
* Galleries: 8 sections. The longest one is 400m long and the shortest 60m
* Viaducts: 4
* Passages over rivers 14 with bridges of single span between 25 and 35 m
* Connections with other Motorways: 3 (A4 VE-PD at Pianiga/Mirano, A27 Mestre-BL at Mogliano, A4 VE-TS at Quarto d’Altino)
* Barriers: 6



Today the actual bypass of Mestre carries between 150.000 and 170.000 cars, with an annual growth of 4%.

Unfortunately I can't find exactly the number of lanes, but I think that they are for some parts 2+2 and mostly 3+3!
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Old July 18th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #119
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Yes. It's one of the coolest motorways I've been on - especially with those Autogrills over the driveway!
Those 'bridge' Autogrills are very common on all Italian highways
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The existing stretch of A4 through Mestre is 3+3 also - but they are very narrow.
Infact Mestre bypass was once 2 lanes: they upgraded it at 3 but the problem was it mostly stands on an el track; so they 'used' the emergency lane to design newly the whole track with 3 lanes but narrower

Mestre bypass with two lanes (+emergency lane)



















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http://www.autovepd.it/t3c/index.html

Today with the third lane
I litterally mean 'today'

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Old July 18th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #120
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It's absurd all that "heavy" traffic!
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