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Old August 31st, 2009, 08:34 AM   #1281
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Officially renovated old section, but technically it is completely new. Corridor is the same, but alignment of the road is straightened and all objects are completely new although some are on the posts of old ones, so they are just replaced.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 04:52 PM   #1282
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There were some plans of building A12 between Livorno and Rome but no updates for a long though.

It seems like SS1 is enough there
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Old August 31st, 2009, 05:05 PM   #1283
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The construction of A12 between Livorno and Rome could start next year
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Old August 31st, 2009, 05:49 PM   #1284
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That's a cool info then

It's good because A1 is the only main route from Rome towards North
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Old August 31st, 2009, 06:21 PM   #1285
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Moreover this cause trafic congestion during the day and during the holidays on the A1.

In my opinion the A12 should reach Naples otherwise, when the branch between Livorno and Civitavecchia will be completed, there will be the risk to congestion the Rome GRA (ring of Rome) with long haul trafic.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM   #1286
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I hope the Italians will refurbish their expressways the way like the Spaniards do A1 and A3 are a good start, but there's a lot to do, and expressways seems to be neglected somewhat.
We pay the construction of the infrastructures with our own money on the contrary of the spaniard.
In according with the Maastricht parameters we are doing that.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1287
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It's Ljubljana.


Other than that, I wanted to use my Maestro card today... but I didn't know I needed a credit card. So guess what - I blocked the only card lane of the main Trieste toll station; fu**ing embarrassing!

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Old September 1st, 2009, 10:35 PM   #1288
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Rookie mistake!

You'll see this in France too, when Dutch people try to go through the credit card lanes with their bank card.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:02 PM   #1289
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here in HR card lanes work also with debit cards (i didn't know it till last week ).
i had problems in I with my credit card because it didn't have a chip, just a magnetic track. fortunately, my friend had one with chip so we didn't do (large) lane
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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:07 PM   #1290
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Yeah, but I bet debit cards of other countries won't be accepted...

With my Dutch bankcard (Maestro), I usually can only draw money at the ATM, I can't pay with it in shops. That's why I have a credit card.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:52 AM   #1291
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Credit card is a must for travel.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 09:07 AM   #1292
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@Verso
I paid a lot of time with Maestro
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:36 PM   #1293
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Yes, but (probably) with a credit card, not a debit card. (or perhaps Italian debit cards are accepted, but not foreign)

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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:28 PM   #1294
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Usually you can pay with your domestic debit card everywhere within your country. When you go abroad you can only do that with your credit card.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:54 PM   #1295
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Usually you can pay with your domestic debit card everywhere within your country. When you go abroad you can only do that with your credit card.
mmm you sure? I went abroad many times in different european countries without having a credit card (Visa / AMEX / Mastercard); I used my Maestro debit card from my bank in Italy and the cash retrieving at the ATMs worked just fine.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 05:14 PM   #1296
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Yes, ATM's usually work with your maestro card, but try a supermarket or gas station.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 06:01 PM   #1297
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I picked up money with my Maestro (not credit card) at indian ATM, in Kashmir, and I didn't have problem.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 07:52 PM   #1298
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Yes, ATM's usually work with your maestro card, but try a supermarket or gas station.
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Well, it happened to me 1 or 2 times to have issues paying at some POSes abroad with my debit card, but most of the times it worked. I don't consider those issues to be a rule because debit cards sometimes won't work at POSes, even in your home country. It depends on the network congestion between the POS and the Bank which emitted the debit card and between the POS and the merchant network of interest (Maestro/cirrus in our case).
But then again, it could also happen at ATMs.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 09:20 PM   #1299
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ATMs are not problematic. You can get your cash anywhere with just Maestro card. The more problematic are POS terminals.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 11:53 PM   #1300
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It's Ljubljana.


Other than that, I wanted to use my Maestro card today... but I didn't know I needed a credit card. So guess what - I blocked the only card lane of the main Trieste toll station; fu**ing embarrassing!
let's just write Lubliana in italian so we cannot get confused...besides that's usually the case in foreign countries
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