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Old July 18th, 2007, 01:30 PM   #121
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Yeah all those trucks. Reminds me of Belgium.

The concept of opening emergency lanes are sadly enough spreading out. You see it often in The Netherlands, Germany and England are experimenting with it too.

Too bad for traffic safety. If you have a crash, you just have to hope emergency vehicles can reach you in time... Opening the emergency lane for traffic costs lives!
A regular widening is better, or even in this case, an entire new bypass.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 01:49 PM   #122
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The concept of opening emergency lanes are sadly enough spreading out. You see it often in The Netherlands, Germany and England are experimenting with it too.

Too bad for traffic safety. If you have a crash, you just have to hope emergency vehicles can reach you in time... Opening the emergency lane for traffic costs lives!
To be honest emergency lanes don't 'disappear': they become 'dinamyc lanes'
They install panel like that one



which show you the lanes opened to traffic and which are not
If there are no problems all the lanes are opened (indicated with those green arrows), but in case of accident they close the right lane which becomes an emergency lane
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #123
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Yeah, but what if it's one hell of a stillstanding traffic jam? The emergency lane is already blocked then..

Well, such lanes (rushhourlanes, that's how we call them) aren't the right long-term solution. We already have rushhourlanes which opened 2 years ago, and have to be opened now from 6 am to 8 pm. That's almost a permanent lane, but no safety.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #124
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Superstrade



Main Freeways (superstrade) in Italy


-SGC Firenze Pisa Livorno
-Variante Aurelia (SS 1 Via Aurelia) nel tratto Livorno-Grosseto
-SS 3 (Via Flaminia) nei tratti Spoleto-Foligno e Acqualagna-Fossombrone (nel tratto Narni-Terni è sostituita dalla SS 675 e nel tratto Fossombrone-Fano dalla SS 73 bis)
-SS 3 bis-SS 675 (Ravenna-Orte)
-SS 11 nel tratto A4 (casello Abbadia di Stura)-Chivasso Ovest
-SS 16 nel tratto Bari-Fasano
-SS 33 nel tratto A26-Crevoladossola
-SS 35 (Superstrada Milano-Meda): Milano-Meda-Lentate nord
-SS 36 nel tratto Monza-Lecco-Colico
-SS 38 (MEBO): Merano-Bolzano
-SS 73 bis (ex Raccordo Autostradale Fano-Fossombrone) nel tratto Fossombrone-Fano
-SS 75 (Superstrada Perugia-Foligno)
-SS 76 nel tratto Fabriano-Falconara Marittima
-SS 77 (Superstrada della Val di Chienti): Civitanova Marche-Tolentino-Muccia
-SS 131 (Carlo Felice): Cagliari-Abbasanta-Sassari-Porto Torres
-SS 131dcn (Diramazione centrale nuorese): Abbasanta-Nuoro-Olbia
-SS 148 (Pontina): Roma-Terracina
-SS 336 (Superstrada della Malpensa): A8-Malpensa
-SS 379 nel tratto Fasano-Brindisi
-SS 407 (Superstrada Basentana)
-SS 434 (Superstrada Transpolesana)
-SS 450 (Superstrada Peschiera-Affi)
-SS 613 (Superstrada Brindisi-Lecce)
-SS 655 (Strada Statale Bradanica) nel tratto Foggia-Candela
-SS 675 (Vetralla-Terni)
-SS 674 (Tangenziale Ovest di Siena)
-SS 682 (Strada di grande comunicazione Jonio-Tirreno)
-SS 690 (Superstrada del Liri)


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(snowy) SS36



SS16 near Pescara









http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superst...rade_in_Italia
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Old July 19th, 2007, 07:29 PM   #125
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When's the whole passante gonna be finished? Right now the first section they're gonna open ain't gonna help much, unless you're travelling from Belluno to Trieste or vice versa..
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Old July 19th, 2007, 09:51 PM   #126
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I love SGC (is it "Strada di Grande Circulazione???) FI-PI-LI.
Such a great connection.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 10:01 PM   #127
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I once drove the SS36 from Chiavenna to Lecco, the amount of tunnels is incredible at the Lago di Como shoreline. I think actually more length is in tunnels than in daylight. But the road was very outdated and crappy pavement, but it looks like a narrow motorway.
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Old July 20th, 2007, 10:57 AM   #128
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I once drove the SS36 from Chiavenna to Lecco, the amount of tunnels is incredible at the Lago di Como shoreline. I think actually more length is in tunnels than in daylight. But the road was very outdated and crappy pavement, but it looks like a narrow motorway.
From Colico to Lecco the freeway got 2 lanes and a large amount of tunnels and viaducts: I think they build it in '70s; this branch need a 'modernization'

In '90s they built the Lecco bypass which overcrosses the city completely underground: a tunnel of 4.8 km under the center of the city, with 3 or 4 exits; then it comes out overground, overcomes with a bridge Adda river and enters a very long tunnel again to complete the bypass of Lecco western suburbs... it's a very cool infrastructure (and very usefull: before they opened the bypass you had to cross the city; during the w.e. that could take up to 1 or 2 hours...)
Unfortunately I couldn't find many pictures of it on the web

From Lecco to Giussano the freeway got to lanes and it is outdated; over all exits are crappy; there is a project to update the stretch to 3 lanes and with less 'dangerous' exits... but they didn't start the works yet

From Giussano to Monza the stretch is of early '90s: 3 lanes and with road illumination in the whole run

There is a project to extend the freeway from Colico to Sondrio in the Northern part and, in the Southern one, from Monza (a Milan suburb) deeper in the city of Milan by an underground tunnel

SS36 is a free motorway with max speed 110 km/h

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Old July 20th, 2007, 03:25 PM   #129
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Is it really new Genova bypass in construction? I've seen it on roadmap of Italy, so I wonder.
No, they still are developping the project

Anyway here some plans










http://www.trail.liguria.it/Interventi/nodo_auto_ge.htm
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Old July 20th, 2007, 03:42 PM   #130
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I noticed now the project forecasts a new halftrack for A7 highway in substitution of the old and crappy A7 Southbound (see the first pages of this thread)
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Old July 20th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #131
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I noticed that two in what you posted! Great news! Thata really is a very importat work, in my opinion, to turn the A-7 north of Genoa into a real motorway.

But from the last picture it seems that the new carriageway will just go till some km's north of Genova, not all teh way until Arquata Scrivia as it should.
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Old July 21st, 2007, 03:17 PM   #132
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AUTOSTRADA DEI PARCHI - HIGHWAY OF PARKS
A24 // A25



TOTAL 281,4 KM

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Old July 21st, 2007, 04:25 PM   #133
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When is the last stretch of the A24 to the A14 gonna be finished?
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Old July 22nd, 2007, 01:34 AM   #134
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I noticed now the project forecasts a new halftrack for A7 highway in substitution of the old and crappy A7 Southbound (see the first pages of this thread)
It will lose all its charm .





BTW good Autostrade.

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Old July 22nd, 2007, 07:45 AM   #135
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I have to travel that road once in my life! A real circuit-like highway only italians can build. That's what i call driving!
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Old July 22nd, 2007, 11:05 AM   #136
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When is the last stretch of the A24 to the A14 gonna be finished?
Last year they completed the “superstrada” (no emergency lane) from Teramo to A14 which pretty much means that unfortunately it probably will never be a full “autostrada” (but now you have four lanes and you don’t have to drive through the little towns). As for the section between Teramo and Val Vomano (direction Gran Sasso) it should be ready by the end of the year or the start of 2008.
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Old July 22nd, 2007, 07:46 PM   #137
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Aww, that's too bad. They could just turn it into an autostrada for the sake of continuity, hehe..
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 02:59 PM   #138
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A pic of A4 motorway crossing Milan (enjoy the traffic jam )

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Old July 23rd, 2007, 05:25 PM   #139
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What a chaotic mess.

How wide are the motorways around Milano?
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 05:27 PM   #140
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Now I know why we always avoided Milano when travelling to France..
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