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Old October 17th, 2009, 01:28 AM   #1421
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lol, what's up with that last sign?

SR, another prefix I haven't heard of before. Are they new?
Maiontenance and property of some national roads (SS=Strada Statale) have been transferred to the regions in the last ten years, and have thus been renumbered SR (Strada Regionale). Some regions have given them to province (SP=Strada Provinciale) as regions before ~2001 didn't ahd any road. Some roads have maintained their number (SS 225 ==> SP 225 near Genova), other have received stupid signage like "SP ex SS 123" or "SP BS 11" (BS = province of Brescia).
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Old October 17th, 2009, 04:07 AM   #1422
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... the
completion of the work (2008) of the ring of Padua (2 km were not
built) that allow you to go to Berlin & co. only by "autostrade"
I didn't know there were 2km missing. What did they look like? That part was already 2x2, wasn't it? (maybe without shoulder?) And I know you could stay within the tolled autostrade system. I once went from the Barriera di Mestre straight to Napoli. I still remember that because the toll collectors in Napoli happened to be on strike and waved everyone through - that saved me quite some money. Would have been even more, if the A4 around Mestre had been completed.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #1423
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by the way, the signal was installed to celebrate the
completion of the work (2008) of the ring of Padua (2 km were not
built) that allow you to go to Berlin & co. only by "autostrade"
but Beijing?!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #1424
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Funny though, that London is closer to Padova than Trapani, an Italian city
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Old October 17th, 2009, 11:59 AM   #1425
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Yes, ring of Padua is all 4-laned (little pieces are 6-laned).

Before 2008 there was a big roundabout (about 2 km).

Now there is a three-lane overbridge




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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #1426
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Lovely bridge

What's the 2nd last city on the funny sign? Trapani or something like that.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:33 PM   #1427
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Lovely bridge

What's the 2nd last city on the funny sign? Trapani or something like that.
It's Trapani, a city in western Sicily!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #1428
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Ok thanks, doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the cities
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Old October 17th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #1429
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Ok thanks, doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the cities
It does, it's the farthest Italian city reachable on road (with a short ferry to Sicily) and a gateway to Tunisia.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 09:07 PM   #1430
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Funny though, that London is closer to Padova than Trapani, an Italian city
I bet they chose Trapani exactly to show that. :P
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Old October 17th, 2009, 09:14 PM   #1431
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Italy is big. When you're down to Roma, you're still only halfway on the way to Reggio Calabaria!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 09:26 PM   #1432
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Rather, it's long.
1,833 km between Courmayeur and Mazara del Vallo:


while just 1,750 km between Courmayeur and Glasgow:
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Old October 17th, 2009, 11:00 PM   #1433
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Has someone of you pictures from ligurian higways?
(a10 ventimiglia-savona, a6 savona-torino, a12 genova-rosignano)

or from the a5 and the a27 highway?
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Old October 18th, 2009, 12:51 AM   #1434
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Rather, it's long.
But only 200 to 250 km wide below the Padana plain.

http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=d&sourc...8,3.504639&z=9
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Old October 18th, 2009, 10:58 AM   #1435
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Special Signal in Padova/Padua:

Berlin, London, ...


That's just a little bit insane...
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Old October 18th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #1436
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Has someone of you pictures from ligurian higways?
(a10 ventimiglia-savona, a6 savona-torino, a12 genova-rosignano)

or from the a5 and the a27 highway?
by wikipedia and miol and google:

A27

near mestre (venice)

in the mountain:






A5:





A10









A12




A4


A10 (old)







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Old October 18th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #1437
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The famous Viaduct on Polcevera (Genova) by Morandi & Cherubini (1960-1967):

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/govanna...li/2450086006/

Autostrada A10:

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Old October 18th, 2009, 02:09 PM   #1438
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those old photos are great!!

could we expect extending A31 and connecting it with A22 somewhere around Rovereto?
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Old October 18th, 2009, 04:51 PM   #1439
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I don't think so!
because the missing part of the a31 would lead through several tunnels or over high bridges and this would be too expensive.
Another reason is the fact that the part of the a22 between trento and verona / raccordo a4 mi-ve would be no longer profitable and this part is the only one, which is profitable for the autostrada del brennero spa.
There would rather be an extension between trento and verona instead of the construction of the missing part of the a31.
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because the missing part of the a31 would lead through several tunnels or over high bridges and this would be too expensive.
Thank God they didn't have this attitude in the 1950's - 1980's. Otherwise Italy would've had very few Autostradas now...
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