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Old January 28th, 2010, 07:19 PM   #1561
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The ecception being the place above: Sesto S.Giovanni is a mess. I do not know how to solve it.
More efficient intersections with Viale Brianza (that is, without roundabouts) north of A4 would surely help. I was surprised to see traffic jams, reaching far onto A4 even on Saturday evening (5 days ago) and it was clear that there are problems getting onto city streets.
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Old January 28th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #1562
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More efficient intersections with Viale Brianza (that is, without roundabouts) north of A4 would surely help. I was surprised to see traffic jams, reaching far onto A4 even on Saturday evening (5 days ago) and it was clear that there are problems getting onto city streets.
Well..you know Milan very well. I happen to work on top of that exit of the highway. The new tunnel is U/C. Give me a minute and I will post it here.
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Old January 28th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #1563
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Here it is. The new tunnel and junction (which will create a free-flow communication between the A4 and the SS36 - a superstrada) has been U/C for a year now. Construction is well under way, probably another 2 years before being completed

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Ho fatto un salto sul sito www.statale36.it per vedere se effettivamente era cambiatoqualcosa al suo interno e ho trovato qualcosina in effetti!! Ancora poca roba, ma è pur sempre qualcosa...

La galleria di Monza
L’opera in progetto di maggior rilievo è la costruzione della galleria artificiale che si svilupperà al di sotto dell’attuale viale Lombardia. A lavori ultimati l’opera in argomento sarà il tunnel urbano più lungo d’Italia. Questa opera porterà ad una riqualificazione territoriale della zona, in quanto separerà la viabilità urbana, che rimarrà in superficie, da quella autostradale, che correrà in sotterraneo, riducendo fortemente gli attuali livelli di traffico. La sezione stradale adottata prevede tre corsie per ciascun senso di marcia, disposte in due vani separati aventi sezione rettangolare. Saranno previste inoltre all’interno della galleria piazzole di sosta e uscite di emergenza per garantire la sicurezza degli utenti.

La sistemazione di viale Brianza
Il tratto della S.S. 36 nel Comune di Cinisello Balsamo è denominato viale Brianza. La riqualificazione di questa zona prevede la rimozione delle intersezioni semaforizzate di via De Vizzi – Casignolo e di via Matteotti – Cornaggia, dove saranno realizzati appositi sottopassi stradali. Verranno inoltre adeguate e migliorate tutte le immissioni delle strade secondarie sulla statale 36, anche attraverso la realizzazione di apposite controstrade.

Lo svincolo di Cinisello Balsamo con l'autostrada A4
Il progetto dello svincolo di Cinisello Balsamo ha come scopo principale quello di separare le sedi stradali, così da poter dividere i flussi di traffico principale extraurbano, verso l’autostrada A4, da quello locale di Cinisello Balsamo. L’attuale sistema di svincolo, infatti, è del tutto insufficiente a smaltire l'ingente volume di traffico generato dalla sovrapposizione delle diverse tipologie di spostamenti.
LA NUOVA ROTATORIA GRACCHI
La rotatoria all’altezza di via Gracchi, destinata a smistare il traffico locale per Cinisello e per i centri commerciali, verrà ingrandita e sovrappasserà un tratto del raccordo con la A4 tramite la realizzazione di una galleria artificiale.
SVINCOLO DI CINISELLO BALSAMO LATO OVEST
Sul lato ovest dello svincolo verrà realizzato un nuovo tratto, volto a gestire il traffico locale separandolo da quello autostradale, che invece passerà al di sotto della nuova rotatoria Gracchi e si andrà a raccordare più avanti con lo svincolo esistente sulla A4.

Dal punto di vista dell’inserimento ambientale, risulta ridotto al minimo “l’effetto barriera”, non vi sono rilevanti opere strutturali in elevazione ed è prevista la riqualificazione morfologica ed ambientale dei siti interessati mediante:

la sistemazione a verde delle aree intercluse;
-l’interposizione fra le diverse rampe di alberature (aventi anche funzione di barriere antiabbagliamento);
-l’ubicazione di barriere antirumore a protezione delle abitazioni.


Oltre all'immagine ormai nota e stranota ho trovato qualche altro rendering e diverse spiegazioni su come intendono agire...
Ecco qui i rendering...

Quello già noto del tunnel sotto viale lombardia, a monza:


Planimetria di come verrà sistemato il collegamento con l'A4 in modo da suddividere il traffico locale in maniera più efficiente:


Rendering di una parte della nuova viabilità tra ss36 e A4:


Sistemazione della rotatoria Gracchi:


Galleria artificiale che verrà scavata SOTTO la rotatoria Gracchi risistemata:



Per tutto il resto (confronti tra rendering e stato attuale, opere impiantistiche, collettore fognario, ecc...) guardate il sito... Manca ancora un po' di roba, ma promette bene...

>> CRONOPROGRAMMA (PDF) <<
>> PLANIMETRIA GENERALE (PDF) <<
>> PIANTINA DELL'INTERVENTO (PDF) <<
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Old January 28th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #1564
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More efficient intersections with Viale Brianza (that is, without roundabouts) north of A4 would surely help. I was surprised to see traffic jams, reaching far onto A4 even on Saturday evening (5 days ago) and it was clear that there are problems getting onto city streets.
This is a scheme with the way they are gonna to modify it with no intersection (part of the project of the construction of the tunnel for SS36 in Monza stretch, currently under way)



Anyway a dynamic lane on A4 had to intervene directly on west acceleration and deceleration lane. And Eddard was right by saying it is the most difficult part of the project since there is no space

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Old January 28th, 2010, 10:50 PM   #1565
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The tunnel will be here, between the two points: http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=d&sourc...38409&t=k&z=15

"Nuovo collettore alto Lambro" is a water tunnel that is being bored with the road tunnel. The other blue lines are new or upgraded roads.

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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:11 PM   #1566
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Here it is again...A25 from Pescara to Magliano (almost entire length). It's very spectacular, unfortunately when I took these pictures the weather was horrible...anyway I hope you like them














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Old January 31st, 2010, 10:17 PM   #1567
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Your pics would be much better off at 50% of the current size
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Old February 9th, 2010, 02:52 PM   #1568
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Are the italian motorways expensive? How much do you pay for 100 km?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 02:54 PM   #1569
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For example: A1 Milano - Bologna 220 km, € 12,30 toll.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #1570
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Chris, that is for a plain stretch, no tunnel, no major special works etc. A different example here:

French border - La Spezia (e.g., travelling along the coast) - 259km - € 24,50
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #1571
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Its about 0,05 € per km on flat terrain and about 0,08-0,10 € per km on hilly terrain and about 0,15 € per km on mountanious terrain. That's general approximation.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 06:27 PM   #1572
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Its about 0,05 € per km on flat terrain and about 0,08-0,10 € per km on hilly terrain and about 0,15 € per km on mountanious terrain. That's general approximation.
normaly it depends on the company
in my eyes the cheapest one in italy is the autostrade per'l italia
the most expensive ones are the autostrada del brennero (a22 brennero-modena) and the autostrada dei fiori spa between savona and ventimiglia.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #1573
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Axx - km - € - €cent/km

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Old February 22nd, 2010, 08:12 PM   #1574
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TANGENZIALE EST- verona
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangenziale_Est_di_Verona
No classification/numeration

You can see the Prealps on the background
Video (during a hailstorm)
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Old March 5th, 2010, 10:18 PM   #1575
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Few pictures from the last couple of weeks. See Panoramio for full size and exact locations.

Leaving Milan on the A8 (Milano - Varese)








A32 Traforo de Frejus - Torino
























A4 Torino - Milano






















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Old March 5th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #1576
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Thank you for sharing!

What trip did you do?
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A32 and A4 were the return from a ski trip to Sauze d'Oulx. A8 was the week before, outbound to Como. More trips from Milan upcoming !

EDIT: like these ones of today: Milano to Verona via the A4. Full format here.



















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Ancona to Reggio Calabria

Here are some pics I've taken last summer, while driving from Ancona to Reggio Calabria. I took a lot of detours from the main natural route, specially in the Sila National Park region.

A25 near Popoli (yes, I've got an strange direction)




SS17













SS161 near Montecorice








This is not any ancient building, but a derelict "Casa Cantonera", old maintenance outposts that once were used by resident workers to keep Italians road passable and so.








Very famous viaduct in Catanzaro


SS-106 (Jonica) - it will be upgraded to 2X2 non-freeway sometime in the next 6 years.


SS-682, a "superstrada" -freeway-like 2 lane roads (tunnels, controlled access etc., connecting Marina di Gioiosa Ionica to Rosarno (A3 junction)




Provincial road in Monti Sibilini
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:29 PM   #1579
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Absolutely gorgeous pictures of A3 re-construction by forumer ING!
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:32 PM   #1580
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria













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