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Old August 26th, 2007, 08:05 PM   #341
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can't wait for the renders....can't wait fo september!!!
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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:22 AM   #342
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what do you think the heighets possible haeight will be for these towers???
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:02 AM   #343
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They won't be more than 2,000 feet, and probably not more than 1,500; I can tell you that much.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 05:05 PM   #344
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They won't be more than 2,000 feet, and probably not more than 1,500; I can tell you that much.
That's true. New Yorkers strongly oppose very tall towers.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #345
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WHY? NY is famous for tall towers, why do new yorkers want to keep their city "down"?
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #346
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WHY? NY is famous for tall towers, why do new yorkers want to keep their city "down"?
Because Manhattan is very, very dense, NY'ers strongly oppose very tall towers. No place is like it in terms of density. Even in HK, buildings generally sit on their own plots rather than abutting other ones.

NY also is one of the few cities in which zoning law limits the height of a structure on each parcel of land.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 06:49 AM   #347
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They should be about 1420 - 1450 ft each. No more - otherwise it is going to be very "painful" process to approve them in NYC.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #348
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thank you for sharing...
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:39 PM   #349
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They should be about 1420 - 1450 ft each. No more - otherwise it is going to be very "painful" process to approve them in NYC.

is this more because the nimbys or the officials?
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:46 PM   #350
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So Ebola we will get the renders in september for sure????
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Old August 29th, 2007, 10:17 PM   #351
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whatever gets built at this site they will look great...it may take away from the empire state...but it wont be so lonley now...and ESB isnt goin ne where...hopefully they can design something that will match with surrounding building and put some height on it..1500 max
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Old August 30th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #352
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let's clear this NY, chicago thing, chicago has some impressive supertalls but they are so spread out they never will complement the skyline, not enough density. New yorks new world trade, midtown towers, westside supertalls brookfield supertalls will all be in close proximity in thier prospective areas. New York is more than just downtown like chicago. Its downtown, midtown which you can call midtown south. Midtown north columbus circle, cental park west and east, and uptown that has a skyline of its own that you never see photos of too vast for chicago to compare. One 2000ft structure will just make it look more odd. Two 1435ft towers will cluster lovely
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Old August 30th, 2007, 08:43 PM   #353
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Who's to say there won't be towers over 1,600' in Midtown Manhattan within the next 10 years? It's not only possible, but also very likely.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 12:12 AM   #354
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let's clear this NY, chicago thing, chicago has some impressive supertalls but they are so spread out they never will complement the skyline, not enough density. New yorks new world trade, midtown towers, westside supertalls brookfield supertalls will all be in close proximity in thier prospective areas. New York is more than just downtown like chicago. Its downtown, midtown which you can call midtown south. Midtown north columbus circle, cental park west and east, and uptown that has a skyline of its own that you never see photos of too vast for chicago to compare. One 2000ft structure will just make it look more odd. Two 1435ft towers will cluster lovely
NY and Chicago don't compare architecturally in any respect. But for a small handful of early 20th century buildings, Chicago's skyline is all post-WW II. NY, by contrast, has scores of magnificent old skyscrapers that cannot be replicated.

Also, because Chicago is a very new city, it lacks depth architecturally. London, Paris, Beijing, Boston, Philadelphia and NY are the only cities that I know of that have buildings from the 1600's and great new skyscrapers.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:06 AM   #355
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Also, because Chicago is a very new city, it lacks depth architecturally. London, Paris, Beijing, Boston, Philadelphia and NY are the only cities that I know of that have buildings from the 1600's and great new skyscrapers.
ya, I think chicago is definitly the more successful skyline during the 60s and 70s, while NYs tall gems are more historic (in terms of skyscrapers).
its amazing both are adding more talls now, in this decade, because the standard for height has gotten so gargantuan.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 07:03 AM   #356
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let's clear this NY, chicago thing, chicago has some impressive supertalls but they are so spread out they never will complement the skyline, not enough density. New yorks new world trade, midtown towers, westside supertalls brookfield supertalls will all be in close proximity in thier prospective areas. New York is more than just downtown like chicago. Its downtown, midtown which you can call midtown south. Midtown north columbus circle, cental park west and east, and uptown that has a skyline of its own that you never see photos of too vast for chicago to compare. One 2000ft structure will just make it look more odd. Two 1435ft towers will cluster lovely
Chicago also goes on for miles north of the lake and it is bulking up cosiderably south of the Loop. One Museum Park ring any bells? Lake Shore East... Now please don't make any more stupid comments like this and Sears, Big John, Aon, 2 Pru, AT&T, Waterview, Trump and Chicago Spire will never compliment Chicago's skyline? They make the damn skyline so superb next to the density it DOES have ( Ever been up the Sears?), next to the old gems they have, next to some of the worlds oldest skyscrapers. . . . . .

Rethink your post it's really dumb.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 11:38 AM   #357
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I think people don't realize how dense the city of Chicago is because the Supertalls (esp. Sears -- look at the SSP diagrams if you don't believe me) make the rest of the skyline look SO short.

But there is truth to the statement that NY is much more than just downtown. NY is basically four skylines worth of buildings.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 04:34 PM   #358
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less talk about chicago vs. new york, and more information or speculation about this proposal please.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 05:49 PM   #359
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Whoa, Whoa-Whoa nygirl. take it easy breath just a second, lets start September off better; Midtown Towers 1401ft or 2000ft
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Old August 31st, 2007, 09:03 PM   #360
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forget the towers is NYC VS CHI...lol..jk..but Sept is at our doorstep...and we will finally be greeted with i hope...some nice...tall...1500ft(to roof- spire/antenna)...midtown towers that will increase the sky and shrink HK's tallest city in the world lead.
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