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Old June 20th, 2007, 07:53 PM   #141
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I'll bet we'll see renderings within a few months. Vornado plans to start construction in 2008.
To me, that's an eternity. This proposal has so much potential.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 08:12 PM   #142
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To me, that's an eternity. This proposal has so much potential.
It's a very complex project. The first thing that must happen is for the new Madison Square Garden to be built. Once that occurs, demolition of the existing Garden can occur and construction of the mega-towers on the site can start. However, construction of the other two 900 foot towers can occur while the Garden is still in its current location since they will be on the periphery of the site.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 12:21 AM   #143
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Regaurdless of 50 + stories... there are more here than anywhere in this country.. even 40 stories, 30 stories is a dream for some places, for us, it's nothing. 78 buildings or 76 buildings over 50 stories... show me anywhere else in this country that match that.
You're right. When it comes to buildings with 50+ stories, no other US city even comes close. Hong Kong is probably the only city in the world right now with more such buildings (about 173 completed).

USA - TOP TEN CITIES (# of high-rises with 50+ floors):

New York: 75
Chicago: 46
Houston: 12
Los Angeles: 10
Dallas: 10
Atlanta: 8
Seattle: 5
Philadelphia: 4
Minneapolis: 4
Miami: 4
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Old June 21st, 2007, 01:02 AM   #144
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Old June 21st, 2007, 01:25 AM   #145
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I was thinking of a building's height in feet -- not the number of floors. NY currently has 186 buildings of 500 feet or more, which I consider the equivalent of a 50 story tower.

NY has 356 buildings of 400 feet or more. That obviously utterly blows away every city in the world other than HK.

HK has 9 more buildings that reach 500 feet for a total of 195.

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Old June 21st, 2007, 02:08 AM   #146
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HK is the coolest skyscraper city outta America, but I don't think it be holding the record for most skyscrapers much longer. NY is sure to take back her title soon.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 03:43 AM   #147
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The first building to be built will be on the current site of the Hotel Pennsylvania. From what Ive read the hotel will be coming down soon and Meryll Lynch is in talks with Voronado about leasing a significant part of the building.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 04:25 AM   #148
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The first building to be built will be on the current site of the Hotel Pennsylvania. From what Ive read the hotel will be coming down soon and Meryll Lynch is in talks with Voronado about leasing a significant part of the building.
That tower is not among the four on the site that have been discussed, however. It's my understanding that the two 1,400 foot towers will rise on MSG's location. One will rise on the corner of 34th and 8th, and one will rise on the corner of 34th and 7th where Tourneau and some other stores are located. A fifth Vornado tower will rise on the Hotel Penn site across the street.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 04:34 AM   #149
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So there may be 5 new towers in the same area?

-2x 1,400+
-1x around 1,100'+ (I bet the Penn site tower will be around 1,200' b/c I think it has trading floors and has as much space as 2WTC)
-2x around 900'

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Old June 21st, 2007, 05:54 AM   #150
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So there may be 5 new towers in the same area?

-2x 1,400+
-1x around 1,100'+ (I bet the Penn site tower will be around 1,200' b/c I think it has trading floors and has as much space as 2WTC)
-2x around 900'
You must remember Ebola that the Brookfield site is being proposed next door to the two 1400 ft towers, two 900 ft towers and the Hotel Penn tower all within a stones throw of one another. The MSG area will Trump the WTC site quite easily in my opinion.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:14 AM   #151
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So you have all of that, the Brookfield site like you said, and the WestSide mega-project (which will best the WTC too!) w/ its towers too, which will be the 4th largest CBD in America. NY will stun the world.

And I would have been in bliss if one building in Midtown with a roof height of over 1,000 feet was proposed. I'm about to enter shock.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:21 AM   #152
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So there may be 5 new towers in the same area?

-2x 1,400+
-1x around 1,100'+ (I bet the Penn site tower will be around 1,200' b/c I think it has trading floors and has as much space as 2WTC)
-2x around 900'
5 for now, but many more to follow. See Jack Napier's post.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:31 AM   #153
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Whats the cut-off height/floor limit for a building to be called a skyscraper?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:45 AM   #154
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Read the previous posts. If you were actually to take the time out and search for all of the buildings with more than 50 floors/500 feet u/c/proposed/in development, you'd have at least 30 skyscrapers. That's not counting the supertalls of the WTC, and other mega-projects, like this one.




I wish I knew what the skyline will look like in 10 years. The Empire State Building will not be alone anymore...

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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:25 AM   #155
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what project is that ebola?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:37 AM   #156
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The towers in the middle of the ESB and green towers would be this project I guess, and the big green ones would be the Westside megadevelopment. They will increase in height the closer inland they go.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:40 AM   #157
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Westside megadevelopment That is approved?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:45 AM   #158
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I'm not up to date on the project. The city wants to build massive platforms over the tracks and encourage developers to build skyscrapers on top of that. They've been buying out smaller buildings to clear the way, so I guess it's going.
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thanks ebola <3
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:54 AM   #160
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All of these new massive projects will be right next to each other, so there will be a cluster of skyscrapers that will make the New WTC whimper.



^"If completed as planned, the Hudson Yards area would constitute the fourth largest central business district in the United States, after midtown Manhattan, the Chicago Loop, and downtown Manhattan."

That's insane. It could mean building the Los Angeles skyline on Manhattan Island.
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