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SWITZERLAND | Railways
This weekend they expect tenthousands for the big inauguration party of the NEAT Lötschberg tunnel that will connect Bern with Brig. Its total length is 34,6km and it will shorten down the the travelling time between these two cities from 1.5 hours to one hour! The Valais will be reachable from Zurich center in less than 2 hours!
http://www.loetschberg.ch/en/index-e.html ![]()
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I've been to Brig and Visp several years ago and seen the old pass. Never expected for it to change so quickly
Hope that tourist trains will still take the old route - much more spectacular, especially the downramp towards Brig when passing Visp
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Quoting the BLS webpage: "From the end of 2008 onwards, the journey will be even more pleasant with the introduction of modern carriages for the Lötschberg mountain route." http://www.bls.ch/bahn/linien_regioex_loetsch_d.html Last edited by railcity; June 15th, 2007 at 09:57 AM. |
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A collection of video-reports can be viewed here:
on Lötschberg: http://www.sf.tv/sfwissen/dossier.ph...15&navpath=pol on NEAT in general: http://www.sf.tv/sfwissen/dossier.ph...07&navpath=pol |
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BBC News 15.6.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6755953.stm
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Congratulations Switzerland! Never been there, but knew about the Lotchsberg railway in my childhood. I hope the mountain route survives.
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It will. Also in the future (the official change also by timetable is only in December) you can choose between the mountain route and the NEAT. BTW the trains will speed up to 250km/h through the tunnel!
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Great news!
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I was there on Saturday
But it was not a lot going on, so I went to the Jura Montains for in the Val de Travers was a Fete de l'Absinthe
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The new line has 22 km of single track without passing loops (even if it will be possible to double it later), so it can't handle all the existing traffic. The new line will be used by 40 InterCity and 70 freight trains daily, and the old one by the remaining 40 freight trains (plus the regional trains, called "RegioExpress").
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great!!
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In Austria these days, they´re doing everything they can to build second tunnels if there is just one single lane/track tunnel, especially for road traffic (Tauern, Katschberg tunnels etc).
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![]() It's build efficient, traffic predictions were not high enough to build a new double track tunnel next to the old double track route that remains open. It's cheaper this way and the construction was faster. But it remains a fact that the international rail freight is booming and the completion of the whole double track tunnel could well be used, even together with the old route. |
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Original plans were for only one new line between German and Italan border.
There were three proposed axis: - Splügen (eastern Switzerland) - Gotthard (central) - Simplon-Lötschberg (western) Politicians and engineers decided for the new Gotthard line but, as in Switzerland big projects must be approved by referendum, they proposed to build also the new Lötschberg (but not the new Simplon) to have more voters supporting the projects (people living along the Gotthard line would have never voted in favour of the new Lötschberg line, and viceversa, people living on the Lötschberg would have never voted for the Gotthard). The new Lötschberg line will add little capacity (from 80 to 110 freight trains, each up to 1800 tons in weight) because the old Simplon line will retain its limits. With the new Gotthard line the capacity is expected to increase from 110-130 trains per day to 220, with the weight of each train increasing from 1800 t to 3000 t and maybe more. ================== Tha layout of tracks of the new tunnel has probably been chosen considering the passenger timetable. That is, becaus of the symmetric timetable, all trains must arrive in Bern a few minutes before hh:00 or hh:30 and start a few minutes before. InetCity trains to the Lötschberg tunnel leave Bern at hh:07 and hh:35, and arrive at hh:23 and hh:55. Studying the timetable they noticed that there was no need of double track in the tunnel because a passenger train would never cross the one travelling in the opposite direction inside the tunnel. The remaining capacity will be used by freight trains. The problem is if a trains comes late to the tunnel...if this happens, it must be routed to the old line. And the trains coming from Italy are very often late... ================== The new Lötschberg tunnel when completed will be used also by shuttle trains carrying trucks and cars betweeen the two sides of the mountain, because over the Lötschberg pass there is no road. Today cars and lorries are transporterd throught the old railway tunnel. The new tunnel has been choses instead of a new highway project, but someone is asking yet to convert the old railway tunnel into a road tunnel, once the new line is double-tracked. In fact, when the tunnel will be completed (and it will), they will have to rebuild a big yard because of the 7 km that have not been bored during the first phase. If they had bored these 7 km from the beginning, it would have been cheaper. The completion of the tunnel is estimated to 1 billion of swiss francs, or 625 millions of euro. I hope it is clear
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A very usefull analysis, Thank you
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SWITZERLAND | Railways
The Zurich mainstation is one of the biggest trainstations in the world.
Travellers/day: 360'000 (500'000 in 2020) Tracks: 26 (16 for national and international traffic | 10 for S-Bahn | 4 additional tracks u/c) Movements per day: 2915 trains (worldrecord!) In the underground of the national/international and 4 S-Bahntracks is a shoppingcenter with over 100 shops, policestation, church and so on. 6 tracks for the S-Bahn are also undeground 4 additional tracks in the new station "Löwenstrasse" are under construction and will be opened in a few years, when the additional tunnel to Zurich-Oerlikon is ready. From outside:image hosted on flickr ![]() The old mainhall where in the 19th century the trains arrived and departed. It's now the biggest overroofed square in Europe housing a lot of events and markets image hosted on flickr ![]() The "Querhalle" between the mainhall and the intercity tracks image hosted on flickr ![]() aerial view: Tramway stop: image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]()
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Good photos!
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Nice pictures!
Here is my old thread in the rating sections: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=221636 Lots of pictures there as well.
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I loved Zurich Haptbahnhoff. I have a few photos of it in my computer somewhere from when I was on holiday in Zurich, I'll try to find them and post them. The Christmas decorations/market was amazing ,and all inside one building.
The shopping centre underneath the station is great too.
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Albula - Bernina Railways get world heritage status
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