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Old November 3rd, 2014, 11:09 AM   #2101
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Is that an actual station platform ?
Part of it; behind the camera the platform widens and there's a "waiting" house. But yes, it is another example of railways that would be more expensive if built nowadays.

However those train stations have very low passenger numbers, so it makes sense to have such kind of small platforms por descending passangers (those waiting for the train will just go to the widest area, of course).
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 08:29 PM   #2102
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For those of you didn't know: there are train stations with a regular (usually hourly) service in Switzerland where passengers are so rare that the train only stops if someone presses a button (inside the train or at the station). I haven't seen such a system elsewhere.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 08:49 PM   #2103
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For those of you didn't know: there are train stations with a regular (usually hourly) service in Switzerland where passengers are so rare that the train only stops if someone presses a button (inside the train or at the station). I haven't seen such a system elsewhere.
We have them in the UK, they are called request stops. We have about 150 of them apparently. Not sure how many have an hourly service though, one in Bristol has a service every 2 hours.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 08:50 PM   #2104
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For those of you didn't know: there are train stations with a regular (usually hourly) service in Switzerland where passengers are so rare that the train only stops if someone presses a button (inside the train or at the station). I haven't seen such a system elsewhere.
Isn't this contrary to the iron-clad adherence to timetable SBB likes to portray as a key component of reliability of its network management system?
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:00 PM   #2105
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Similar stops exist in Germany, too (e.g. on the Ammergaubahn Murnau - Oberammergau).
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:03 PM   #2106
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Isn't this contrary to the iron-clad adherence to timetable SBB likes to portray as a key component of reliability of its network management system?
Those are slow trains on minor lines. A train doesn't lose much time by stopping from 60 km/h and picking up few people. Also there is certainly enough margin to make up time later.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:04 PM   #2107
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Looks like I haven't traveled enough on minor train lines outside Switzerland.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:05 PM   #2108
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Amtrak uses these "request stops" a lot, but, then, Amtrak outside NEC and a few small regional networks is not really a passenger transportation system as much as a government-subsidized leisure ride system...
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I looked at the video for 5 seconds and realised something was off. Then I checked the video settings and noticed it was shot at 50 fps. It's definitely interesting but I get nauseated watching it
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Similar stops exist in Germany, too (e.g. on the Ammergaubahn Murnau - Oberammergau).
Spain as well, IIRC on the old line between Madrid and Segovia.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 04:27 PM   #2112
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SBB awards Eppenberg tunnel contract
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SWITZERLAND: Swiss Federal Railways announced on November 14 that it had awarded a SFr273·7m contract for the construction of the 3 km Eppenburg tunnel, the key element in the SFr855m project to four-track the busy Olten – Aarau line by 2020.

The contract awarded to the ARGE Marti Eppenberg joint venture led by Marti Tunnelbau AG covers the civil works for boring the tunnel and building the approach alignments through Wöschnau and Gretzenbach. Enabling works are already underway, and construction is expected to begin in the spring of 2015. A separate contract will be awarded around mid-2017 for the supply and installation of the railway systems, including track, catenary and signalling.

SBB issued an open tender for the tunnelling work in January 2014, with bids submitted by June for consideration using price, quality and environmental factors. ARGE Marti Eppenberg proposed to excavate the twin-bore tunnels using a tunnel boring machine, which SBB said was not only the most economical approach, but reduced the impact on both local residents and the environment compared to drill and blast techniques

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On an annual basis, can SBB supply electricity for all its trains from its own hydro power plants?
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On an annual basis, can SBB supply electricity for all its trains from its own hydro power plants?
http://www.sbb.ch/en/group/sbb-as-bu...wer/power.html
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When the Gotthard tunnel eventually opens in 2017, will there be already enough paths, hypothetically, to accommodate on rails all Italy <=> Germany truck traffic to the point the caps established in Swiss law for truck movements can be achieved, or is that contingent on other projects been completed like Ceneri tunnel?
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When the Gotthard tunnel eventually opens in 2017, will there be already enough paths, hypothetically, to accommodate on rails all Italy <=> Germany truck traffic to the point the caps established in Swiss law for truck movements can be achieved, or is that contingent on other projects been completed like Ceneri tunnel?
That's mostly contingent on the Italians finally doing what they promised.
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That's mostly contingent on the Italians finally doing what they promised.
What exactly did they promise to do?
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SBB will get 3 IC double deck EMUs for free from Bombardier.

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SBB and Bombardier reach settlement over delayed train order

SBB and Bombardier have reached an agreement on the late delivery of the new eight-car trains. The compensation deal, which includes three free trains and spare parts, is subject to the first test trains being passed by SBB in early 2015.

In February, SBB confirmed that the delivery would be delayed until 2016 – two years later than originally planned. SBB and Bombardier now expect to commission the first train in 2017 and deliver all 62 by 2020.

The first train will leave Bombardier’s Hennigsdorf factory next month,
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Old November 19th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #2120
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It is hard tod efine the capacity of a ralway or of a road, but I will try.

The planned border-to-border capacity is 110 freight train paths a day on the Simplon and 260 on the Gotthard, a total of 370 (plus additional paths for passenger trains). This equals to 3 and 6 paths per hour per directions respectively, that could become 4 and 8 with additional infrastructure (Bellinzona's bypass and so on).

If they were all to be used by RoLa trains (750 m long including locomotives, 37 low floor wagons each 19 m long) there would be 36 x 370 = 13.690 places per day; on 330 days per year this would be 4.5 million trucks or more than 3 times the actual number.

However the transport of full trucks is highly costly and inefficient, transporting only semitrailers is better, only swap bodies or containers even more.

A double Modalohr wagon carries 2 trailers in 34 m, so in a ~700 m consist they can carry 41 trailers (20.5 wagons) rather than 36 tractors+trailers in 36 wagons.

There are around 120 to 160 freight trains a day on the Gotthardbahn now, so the additional capacity is around 100 paths (in both directions). With the GBT+CBT trains could be longer than today's limit (650 m or so, even less in Italy). Considering a train length limit of around 600 m, each train could carry around 33 semitrailers.

33 semitrailers x 100 paths = 3.300 semitrailers a day
3.300 semitrailers x 330 days = 1.100.000 a year

The number of transalpine trucks in Switzerland today is around 1.200.000, and the target is to halve that to 650.000, so even with today's train length limit there is plenty of capacity to reach the target.

Even more capacity could be freed up unloading goods destined to Italy in Italian ports rather than in those on the Antwerpen-Rotterdam-Hamburg area.

[anyway, the opening of the GBT will coincide with a reduction of capacity, as many sections of the line will be single tracked to allow enlargement of tunnels to the P400/C80 profile; 1 out of 5 paths per hour per direction will be lost during the day, and the Luino line will be closed for several months]

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What exactly did they promise to do?
To increase rail capacity on their side. Some treaties have been signed, but with no specific project in mind. At the moment, they are planning to increase loading gauge from the broder until some terminals and to build a new terminal in Milano Smistamento, partly with Swiss money.
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