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Old January 26th, 2015, 01:33 AM   #2181
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...512021&nseq=22
David Gubler, December 28, 2013, Effretikon
S12 service to Zurich rushing through Effretikon on this snowy morning.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 02:34 AM   #2182
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David Gubler, October 09, 2010, Oberalp pass (Andermatt)
A local train is climbing the rack rail section from Nätschen to the Oberalp pass.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #2183
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Two worlds, a dull one underneath the fog and a bright one above - that's pretty much standard in Switzerland during winter. Too bad I'm usually stuck in the dull one... not that day, however.
Tell me about it...I was in Switzerland early this month, my planned photography of freights on the Gotthard Line approaches between Arth Goldau and Fluelen was foiled by the pea soup fog that refused to dissipate even by noontime. A train ride up and way from Arth revealed crystal clear skies a few hundred meters above the lakes in the surrounding hillsides. Of course no thundering freights there, just clean and efficient FLIRTS. I may just have to return in the summer.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 11:44 PM   #2184
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If you return, keep in mind that when on the northern side of the Gotthard tunnel there is abd weather, it's nice on the southern side, and vice-versa. Also, anybody interested in taking photograph should remember that from spring 2016 (exact date is unknown) some freight trains will start being diverted through the base tunnel, just a few initially but with the number increasing until the end of summer when I expect most freight trains will avoid the summit line.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 07:20 AM   #2185
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If you return, keep in mind that when on the northern side of the Gotthard tunnel there is bad weather, it's nice on the southern side, and vice-versa. Also, anybody interested in taking photograph should remember that from spring 2016 (exact date is unknown) some freight trains will start being diverted through the base tunnel, just a few initially but with the number increasing until the end of summer when I expect most freight trains will avoid the summit line.
I've noticed on AlpTransit's webcams lately, there have been some heavy dumpings of snow at the north portal and no snow at the south.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 01:35 PM   #2186
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I've noticed on AlpTransit's webcams lately, there have been some heavy dumpings of snow at the north portal and no snow at the south.
That's pretty much your standard alpine weather: when the cold air moves over Europe, saturated with moisture from either the Atlantic Ocean (northwesterly winds) or the Mediterranean Sea (southerly winds), the Alps are the first obstacle the air masses encounter. The front thus gets dammed by the mountains and heavy precipitation occurs. The other side of the mountain range on the other hand gets clear air and sunshine (at least above the fog). Thus, heavy snowfalls on the northern and the southern side of the Alps are mutually exclusive most of the time.
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Old February 2nd, 2015, 09:57 PM   #2187
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SBB orders more ETR610 tilting trains
02 Feb 2015


Alstom ETR610 New Pendolino tilting trainset for Swiss Federal Railways

SWITZERLAND: Swiss Federal Railways has exercised an option for Alstom to supply an additional four ETR610 New Pendolino tilting trainsets for use on the north–south Gotthard and Simplon corridors from 2017.

The SFr120m order announced on January 30 follows two previous orders for seven and eight trainsets. The 250 km/h seven-car trainsets will be identical to the those in the second batch, and equipped to operate under 15 kV 16·7 Hz, 25 kV 50 Hz and 3 kV DC electrification

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Old February 2nd, 2015, 10:48 PM   #2188
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The initial order for 14 (not 7) sets (plus 16 options) was made by Cisalpino in 2004. When it was dissolved these sets were splitted between SBB and Trenitalia. SBB then ordered 8 additional sets, and now 4.

There are some differences between the initial 14 sets and the others, and now also (but not as between the first and second-third series) between the 7 belonging to Trenitalia and the first 7 of SBB.
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Old February 8th, 2015, 12:22 PM   #2189
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Traxx AC3 LM for Swiss Rail Traffic

New locomotive in Switzerland: Bombardier Traxx AC3 with Last Mile module. The 5.6MW locomotive has a extra diesel engine (type Deutz 2013 BR-4V) with 230 kW engine output and a fuel tank of 400 liters. It then had a top speed of 50 kph, and it could haul trains up to 2000 t for 8-10 hours.

Now it's possible to bridge the gap between place of arrival and the multi-modal freight terminal, the shunt yard, the harbor network or the customer's factory site. Often short distances (therefore the last miles) with no overhead wire and the exclusive domain of diesel shunters.

Swiss Rail Traffic is a independent railway transport companie for special traffics and test/measurement in Switzerland. In addition to the new Traxx, they use regularly one other electrical and 6 diesel locomotives.



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Old February 10th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #2190
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New locomotive in Switzerland: Bombardier Traxx AC3 with Last Mile module. The 5.6MW locomotive has a extra diesel engine (type Deutz 2013 BR-4V) with 230 kW engine output and a fuel tank of 400 liters. It then had a top speed of 50 kph, and it could haul trains up to 2000 t for 8-10 hours.
Isn't it very, very optimistic that 2000t train can be run for 8-10 hours with a 230 kW engine?

It seems totally unrealistic to me.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 02:16 PM   #2191
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230 kW at about 195 g/kWh (assumption!) gives a fuel consumption of about 44.9 kg/h or about 60 l/h. If you don't run flat out all the time 8 to 10 hours could be possible.
Moving a 2000t train with 230 kW on the other hand: it will probably move but not at any significant speed. Nowhere near 50 km/h in any case, but it's not called 'last-mile-diesel' for nothing.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 10:33 AM   #2192
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Serious train collision somewhere near Zurich

http://news.sky.com/story/1430837/do...rain-collision

Can swiss forumers provide more info ?
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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #2193
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http://www.nzz.ch/zuerich/unfall-zug-rafz-1.18487271

- lateral collision
- 5 injured, train driver badly injured
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Old February 20th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #2194
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Train accident from swissinfo

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Old February 21st, 2015, 01:33 PM   #2195
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Serious train collision somewhere near Zurich

http://news.sky.com/story/1430837/do...rain-collision

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This was in Rafz, near Schaffhausen, not near Zürich.

A local had just reversed at Rafz, and headed back to Schaffhausen. It should have waited for the IR to Schaffhausen that was overtaking it on a parallel track, but didn't.
Both trains were driven by apprentice drivers, accompanied by instructors. That the train protection system allowed the local to leave is because after a reversal the on board equipment has no knowledge of the aspects of signals ahead until it passes the first balise, which is only encountered after the train has moved...
The fire brigade had to cut open the locomotive of the IR to free the driver, which is why it looks so badly damaged in pictures.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 02:32 PM   #2196
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I don't understand how this could have happened. Because a point based protection system is used you would expect it to limit the trains speed until it passes the first balise and knows what to do. After the signal there should also have been a overshoot area long enough for the train to be stopped before the danger point if it were travelling at that limited speed.
If this is what really happened it expresses the key advantage of a continuous protection system based on authorisations (like ETCS L2/L3 and LZB). No authorisation = no movement (or worst case at a very limited speed)

In this specific case: When a train is driven by an apprentice driver, accompanied by an instructor who is legally the driver? In the Netherlands for instance in a car with a learner driver and an instructor the instructor is the legal driver, despite not being behind the wheel.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 03:17 PM   #2197
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This was in Rafz, near Schaffhausen, not near Zürich.
Isn't Schaffhausen near Zurich?
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Old February 21st, 2015, 03:49 PM   #2198
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This was in Rafz, near Schaffhausen, not near Zürich.
You need a reality check, seriously!

Schaffausen is near Zürich, and Rafz is even closer. This is like saying that the Statue of Liberty is near New Jersey not near New York
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You need a reality check, seriously! Schaffausen is near Zürich, and Rafz is even closer. This is like saying that the Statue of Liberty is near New Jersey not near New York
This is Switzerland, not US. Swiss get really annoyed by this foreign tendency to treat the whole country as if it was a mere suburb of Zürich.
There are probably more people commuting from Rafz to Schaffhausen than to Zürich.
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No offense but Rafz is officially in the agglomeration of Zurich since 2000. And in the canton of Zurich. And maybe even more people from Schaffhausen work in Zurich than in Schaffhausen.

But no worries. Everyone loves Schaffhausen. It just doesn't make sense to quote it in an international newspaper.
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