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Old May 23rd, 2011, 08:44 PM   #341
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yes, today only 4 out of 7 return trips use the ETR 470, with the others replaced by conventional (non EMU) trains or transhipments.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #342
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Some pictures of the variable gauge prototype in Lucerne's transport museum.




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Old May 27th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #343
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And a flar rail used in the track linking the museum and the railway network (here, also on Street View).


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Old May 27th, 2011, 07:23 AM   #344
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And a flar rail used in the track linking the museum and the railway network (here, also on Street View).


What is the function of this?

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Old May 27th, 2011, 10:03 AM   #345
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I don't know. Flat rails are used on the external side on tracks with a very small radius of curvature, but this track is quite straight.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 06:08 PM   #346
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Zürich HB (not from me)
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Old May 29th, 2011, 07:34 PM   #347
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Thouse Double Deckers would look far better if they had 30% less windows and the windows on the upper level were slightly more rounded and smaller.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #348
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Zürich – Bern in 12 Minutes

The demand for mobility is constantly increasing. At the same time the call for sustainability is getting louder. Everywhere investments flow into new technologies, in order to be able to supply the want for mobility in the future. Many studies have shown that the ecologically sustaibnable Swissmetro is technically feasible and that it makes sense from a macreconomic point of view.

Unfortunately, there is not enough political will to go ahead with this project. So a far-advanced technology of and for the next generation remains in the drawer. More than ever do we need the courage to think beyond the next economic recovery; for the future begins today. That is why Pro Swissmetro stands up for this visionary project. We are happy that you are also taking an interest in Swissmetro.






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Old May 30th, 2011, 08:25 AM   #349
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Thouse Double Deckers would look far better if they had 30% less windows and the windows on the upper level were slightly more rounded and smaller.
Looks aren't the only thing. As a frequent passenger on these trains I'd rather have even bigger windows.
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Unfortunately, there is not enough political will to go ahead with this project. So a far-advanced technology of and for the next generation remains in the drawer. More than ever do we need the courage to think beyond the next economic recovery; for the future begins today. That is why Pro Swissmetro stands up for this visionary project. We are happy that you are also taking an interest in Swissmetro.
Swissmetro AG was liquidated in 2009. The rights to the technology are now owned by the Lausanne Technical University. "Pro Swissmetro" is only a lobby group that tries to keep interest in the project alive. It's unlikely to happen in the near future.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 01:54 PM   #351
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And we don't see the trains running beneath the surface! traffic in this station is amazing
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Old May 30th, 2011, 05:45 PM   #352
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And we don't see the trains running beneath the surface! traffic in this station is amazing
It is quite busy, I guess it might be as busy as Milano Centrale (if you consider all the approaches and junction leading to the terminus station).
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Old May 30th, 2011, 06:18 PM   #353
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Zürich HB is slightly busier than Milano Centrale considering both passenger number and train movements, even if not that much.

As for Wikipedia, Zürich HB has 300.000 to 500.000 (well...that's not very precise) daily passengers and around 3000 train movements, while Milano Centrale has 320.000 daily passengers on around 500 trains (if considered as pairs, arriving and leaving, this equals to 1000 train movements).

However, all suburban traffic in Milan serve the (not so much) nearby Garibaldi and Repubblica stations (there are no suburban trains in Centrale), while in Zürich nearly everything pass through and stop in the Haupbahnhof.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #354
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Looks aren't the only thing. As a frequent passenger on these trains I'd rather have even bigger windows.
Indeed,

And in Switzerland big windows are always a good thing to have, just to have an better view of the beautiful scenery outside.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 12:15 AM   #355
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A comparison between the double decker IC 2000 car and the EW IV car (both in Intercity services):

IC 2000 (from schweizer-bahnen.ch):


IC 2000 upper deck 2nd class:


IC 2000 under deck 1st class:


EW IV:


EW IV 1st class (my favourite):


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EW IV 2nd class:


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2nd class seats without armrest to divide the places: uncomfortable ride if you have someone by our side.
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2nd class seats without armrest to divide the places: uncomfortable ride if you have someone by our side.
Are you afraid of getting infected if you touch someone else by chance? it is not uncomfortable at all
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Old May 31st, 2011, 03:43 PM   #358
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The SBB said that its ETR 470 will be whitdrawn by the end of 2014, and that they will not receive the planned midlife overhaul. Only minor and temporary maintenance works will be carried on for about 12 millions CHF. It is not know what are the planes for Trenitalia's ETR, nor by what they will be replaced.
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2nd class seats without armrest to divide the places: uncomfortable ride if you have someone by our side.
As you said once in another thread, not so long ago : there must be SOME
difference between first and second class. Here, at least, you know what you
pay for. Last car models on the Belgian network have very little difference
between second and first, and I think this is an error. First because the
50% price uplift becomes difficult to justify (for me, it's now much less a
difference of comfort than a difference of public) but also now people have
all good reasons to sit in first class with a second class ticket, and pretend
they did it by mistake when they get caught. At least here it can't happen...
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2nd class seats without armrest to divide the places: uncomfortable ride if you have someone by our side.
Only for the extremely anti social. Or fat.
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