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Re 460
image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Lok 2000, the new generation of Swiss locomotives. Built as an universal locomotive for fast intercity trains and heavy freight trains. But now they only run fast passenger trains, usually in push-pull operation with EW IV single deck or IC2000 double-deck cars. Build date: 1991–1996 Production: 119 Max Speed: 230 km/h Power: 6,100 kW Many of these locomotives got full body advertising schemes. image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Einheitswagen IV (EW IV) Build date: 1981–1992 max speed: 200 km/h ![]() Photo by Massimo Rinaldi on railfaneurope.net Control car type IC: Build date:1996–2004 max speed: 200 km/h image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial IC2000 double-deck train Build date:from 1997 max speed: 200 km/h image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by chrchr_75 Double-deck restaurant car. image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial |
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Re 6/6 (Re 620)
prototype (with double body): image hosted on flickr ![]() main series: image hosted on flickr ![]() SBB Cargo Re 620 image hosted on flickr ![]() Last generation of the big Gotthard mountain railroad locomotives. It has 6 axles in a Bo Bo Bo configuration. Build date: 1972, 1975–1980 Production: 89 Max Speed: 140 km/h Power: 7,800 kW The locomotive often is coupled with a Re 4/4 II as a Re 10/10 combination on a heavy freight trains on the Gotthard line. image hosted on flickr ![]() all pictures: Flickr by chrchr_75 |
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Ae 6/6 (Ae 610)
image hosted on flickr ![]() SBB Cargo Ae 610 image hosted on flickr ![]() all pictures: Flickr by chrchr_75 The predecessor of the Re 6/6 for the heavy freight trains on the Gotthard. But because of their co co axle configuration they were not really suited for the bendy mountain line. After the Re 6/6 took over they have been used for freight trains in the rest of Switzerland. Although they are already more then 50 years old they should stay in service until the opening of the Gotthard Base tunnel in 2016. But Recently many of them have been stored because of falling traffic due to the economic crisis. Build date: 1952, 1955–1966 Production: 120 Max Speed: 125 km/h Power: 4300 kW |
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SBB Cargo Re 482
image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr, by TrickyMartin2006 Bombardier Traxx locomotive for freight trains into Germany and Austria. Build date: 2001-2006 Production: 50 Max Speed: 140 km/h Power: 5.600 kW SBB Cargo Re 484 (E 484 SR) image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr, by gewoonsanderrr Bombardier Traxx 2 MS locomotives for freight trains into Italy. Build date: 2004-2006 Production: 21 Max Speed: 140 km/h Power: 5.600 kW Some of these locomotives have been hired to Cisalpino to run replacement services between Switzerland because of problems with the old and the late deliverance of the new Pendolino trains. image hosted on flickr ![]() by lastarial SBB Cargo Re 474 (E 474 SR) image hosted on flickr ![]() Siemens ES64F4 locomotives, they were also ordered to be used on freight trains into Italy, even before the Re 484 order. But because of problems with the approval in Italy they came later then the 484 and only 12 of the original 18 ordered have been delivered. Build date: from 2005 Production: 12 Max Speed: 140 km/h Power: 6.400 kW |
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Interesting pics and informations.
Funnily, I was in Swizerland till yesterday for a short holiday and I sow several of these trains
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SBB Diesel locomotives.
Even though the Swiss railways are almost completely electrified the SBB still uses some diesel locomotives for shunting and light freight trains. Am 841 image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Built by: GEC/Alsthom Build date: 1996-1997 Production: 40 Max Speed: 100 km/h Power: 920 kW Am 842 Am 842.0 ![]() Photo by: Eddy Konijnendijk @ railfaneurope.net Am 842.1 ![]() Photo by: Reinhard Reiss, www.reissweb.net The first series of this loco is a type MaK 1205 built for track builder SERSA, but they have been bought by the SBB for track maintenance work. The 2nd series was build by Vossloh, the new owner of MaK. SBB Cargo got a couple of these loco's via leasing companies to be used on freight services on German lines from the borderstation Schaffhausen. Later new locomotives were leased for used in Italy. Built by: MaK & Vossloh Build date: 1994 & 2007 Max Speed: 80 & 100 km/h Power: 1120 & 1100 kW Am 843 Cargo look image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Infra look image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by chrchr_75 The first big order for mainline diesel locomotives by SBB, they are used for light freight trains but also for shunting. SBB chose for diesel locomotives to be used freight trains that had to use small diesel shunting locos at industrial lines. The infrastructure division uses the locomotives for maintenance trains and Fire and Rescue trains. The passenger division also uses the loco on heavy shunting duties in Basel and Chiasso stations. Built by: Vossloh Build date: 2003-2007 Production: 73 Max Speed: 100 km/h Power: 1500 kW SBB Italy Am 840 image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr, by Effimera59 - Donadelli Daniele The SBB leases these locos for use freight trains in Italy. They are the Vossloh G 2000 BB type, that people either love or hate when it comes to the design. Built by: Vossloh Build date: 2003 Production: 6 Max Speed: 120 km/h Power: 2240 kW |
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SBB EMUs
RABDe 500 ICN image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Switzerland own pendolino train using a combination of Swiss and Italian design and technique. They are used on Intercity and Interregio trains on the main East - West axises and since recently also on the Gotthard line. Built by: Adtranz/FIAT-Sig & Bombardier/Alstom (= the same companies after take overs) Build date: 1999–2005 Production: 44 Max Speed: 200 km/h Number of cars: 7 Capacity: 477 seats RABe 520 GTW image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial These trains were built for the Seetalbahn in the hart of Switzerland between Lenzburg and Luzern. Since part of that line is built directly next to the road without any barriers the trains that are used are smaller or have extensive warning stripes on the front. They are also used on some other regional lines in the same region. Built by: Stadler Rail Build date: 2002 Production: 17 Max Speed: 115 km/h Number of cars: 3 Capacity: 139 seats RABe 521, 522, 523 & 524 Flirt image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by lastarial Tilo RABe 524 ![]() Photo by: Reinhard Reiss, www.reissweb.net The SBB put out an order for new regional EMUs that was won by Stadler Rail. It wasn't 1 set order but a split up one depending on what services the trains would be used. The first 10 trains were for the S-bahn around the city of Zug. The second batch was for the international S-Bahn around Basel, these sets can also run in Germany and some of them were also to be used in France. But they never got approval to be used in France, so the SBB decided to put out a new order of Flirts that are slightly different and should get approval to be used in France. The joined operation of regional trains in the border area of Switzerland and Italy under the name Tilo also uses SBB Flirts. Built by: Stadler Rail Build date: from 2004 Production: 92+ Max Speed: 160 km/h Number of cars: 4 Capacity: 158/161 seats |
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Wow Momo, that's an impressive list!
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And there are many more.
Continuing with the EMUs and motor cars. SBB RBe 540 Wikipedia, by MPW57 image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by steven46502 In the 1950s the SBB started to replace the pre-war electrical locomotives and EMUs. The RBe 4/4 motorcars where one of the types of trains that where ordered from the Swiss railway industry. It was intended to be used on local trains but also fast trains between the big cities. Therefor it was very powerful of 1988 kW to be able to pull or push longer trains. Now it's only used for local regional trains and also on the S-Bahn Zürich. Built by: SIG/BBC/MFO Build date: 1959, 1963–1966 Production: 82 Max Speed: 125 km/h Capacity: 60 seats (originally 64) It's been used together with the cars of the Einheitswagen I & II types. Einheitswagen I BDt driving trailer ![]() by Massimo Rinaldi on railfaneurope.net B in original colors ![]() by Colin Baker on railfaneurope.net The Einheitswagen I (standard car I) replaced the last old heavy steel and light wooden cars from before the WOII in order to standardize the wagon park of the SBB. They where build in a huge number over 10 years time and are still in service. They have been used on almost every sort of train, from fast trains to S-Bahn trains. Build date: 1956-1967 Production: 1249 Max Speed: 140 km/h Einheitswagen II ![]() by tobias b köhler on railfaneurope.net In IR look ![]() by Daniel Stieger on railfaneurope.net ![]() by Massimo Rinaldi on railfaneurope.net Follow up from the EW I in the 1960s, with only small changes they almost look identical. The smaller windows on the end of the cars is the most obvious difference. Build date: 1965-1976 Production: 798 Max Speed: 140 km/h |
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RBDe 560 NPZ
image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]() Driving trailer image hosted on flickr ![]() The NPZ "Neue Pendel Zug" (New Shuttle Train) is product of a collaboration of many Swiss railway companies to build a standard train for local services. It has a motor car and a driving trailer, intermediate cars can be added if it's needed. Unlike some of the private railways the SBB didn't order new intermediate cars for these trains but used the old but renovated EW I & II cars. Built by: Schindler Waggon Altenrhein, BBC Baden / ABB Zürich, SIG Neuhausen Build date: 1984, 1987–1990 Production: 86 Max Speed: 140 km/h Capacity: 60 seats (originally 64) Recently they are going through a modernization program, that gives them a major overhaul. The now even older EW I & II cars will be replaced with new low floor cars from Bombardier for better access for wheelchairs. (Swiss station don't have high platforms). Again no fixed EMUs will be made, so the length of the train is still NPZ Domino image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by phildefer64 ![]() wikipedia |
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RABe 514 DTZ
image hosted on flickr ![]() The newest double deck trains for the S-Bahn Zürich. These are the first double deck EMUs for the SBB, before these trains they only had the push-pull sets with a locomotive. They were ordered to replace the aging RABDe 12/12 and RBe 540 trains. Built by: Siemens, with help from Stadler Build date: 2005 - 2009 Production: 61 Max Speed: 140 km/h Number of cars: 4 Capacity: 378 seats RABDe 12/12 image hosted on flickr ![]() Flickr by Lazytom ![]() Originaly ordered for the Goldcoast line along the shore of Lake Zürich. Later they became part of the fleet of the S-Bahn Zürich until the end of last year when they where withdrawn from active service and were put in reserve. Built by: Schindler Waggon Pratteln, FFA, BBC, SAAS Build date: 1965–1967 Production: 20 Max Speed: 125 km/h Number of cars: 3 Capacity: 128 seats Stadler DOSTO ![]() ![]() The next generation of EMUs for the S-Bahn Zürich will be the new Stadler Dosto EMU that are based on the Stadler Flirt trains that already run in Switzerland. They will replace the old single deck trains on the S-Bahn and also enable the SBB to increase the frequency on some of the lines. Built by: Stadler Rail Build date: 2011 Production: 50 Max Speed: 160 km/h Number of cars: 6 Capacity: 526 seats These EMUs were ordered together with new double deck cars for the Re 450 Dosto sets (as seen in post #7) with a low floor entrance. All S-bahn trains will easily accessible for wheel-chair users when these are all in service. Each existing set will get one new car replacing one old 2nd class car. With the cars that become available new sets will be formed, probably with Re 420 locomotives for extra peak-hour services.
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AB (Appenzeller Bahnen):
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CJ (Chemins de fer du Jura):
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MOB (Montreux-Berner Oberland-Bahn/Chemin de fer Montreux-Oberland bernois):
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there are many SBB trains serving S-bahn of zürich, what about Geneva and Lausanne? don't they have such services?
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Geneva has only two suburban lines with a train every 30 minutes stopping at all stations, plus some direct extra service at peaks. But a cross-city tunnel is under construction, service will increase to 2-4 trains per hour on some lines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEVA_rail
Lausanne has some regional trains with quite distant stops served only every hour (except two lines, every 30 minutes). There are plans to increase frequency to up to a train every 15 minutes on one line. Zug has a single short line with 4 trains per hour. Berne has three metre gauge lines served every 7 to 15 minutes. Standard gauge lines have less trains because of capacity limits. Basel has 4 lines served every 30 minutes, a cross-city tunnel is planned. Ticino/Tessin canton has a quite well developed network despite its small size with three lines with 4 and sometimes 5 trains per hour each (sometime somnibus, sometimes direct) connecting four cities (3x50.000 inhabitants and 1x100.000) separated by a mountain and a lake. All these services are operated with Stadler Flirt, Bombardier Nina or equivalent stock (single deck, 75 to 150 m in length), except in Zürich where most trains are double deckers and Bern where double deckers will be used soon. Also in other cities regional trains are often designed with a number for each line, but they aren't really suburban trains.
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thanks for the answer. Why is there such difference in the development level of the railway suburban network between Genève and Zürich? Is the canton of Zürich more pro-active in this sense? or is it caused by organizational problems with the government of france? Because Zürich metropolitan area has more population but the difference is not that large as to explain why that city has 26 different lines while Geneva only has 2
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I love taking trains in Switzerland,clean and on time.
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Geneva is smaller and has less railway than Zürich.
There are now only three lines. Two meets in Cornavin station, but have different voltage (15 kV AC to Lausanne, 1500 V DC to La Plaine-Bellegarde) and some bottlenecks. The first part of La Plaine line is single track for 3 km, because even if there are two more tracks in this part they are electrified at 15 kV so french trains can't use them. There is a plan to convert the La Plaine line to 25 kV AC, buy multisystem EMU and make one of the two tracks commutable. I haven't a drawing, but there will then be three tracks: one 25 kV, one that can switch between 15 and 25 kV, and one 15 kV. This will increase capacity as the centre track will be used also by La Plaine trains. The line to Lausanne had only two tracks until 2004. A third track was then added so suburban service increased from 1 to 2 trains per hour, then 4 tph in the future. The Eaux Vives-Annemasse-Evian/St Gervais/Annecy lines and branches are all single tracks, and aren't connected to the other two liens reaching Cornavin. Also the line to Annecy is very curved and slow, and buses are faster than trains. There is a project (today known as CEVA) to link this group of lines with Cornavin since 1912 but construction isn't yet really started. There are also two tangential lines, Bellegarde-Annemasse (one train every two hours) and Bellegarde-Nyon bypassing Geneva (today only freight traffic and partly closed). Here a map of the network in 2020: http://etat.geneve.ch/dt/mobilite/ac...ion-10089.html http://etat.geneve.ch/dt/SilverpeasW...chment/Images/ Today, the lines operating are: 1 between lausanne and Genève Cornavin (1 tph) 2 between Coppet and Lancy Pont Rouge (2 tph) 6 between Cornavin and La Plaine (2 tph) and Bellegarde (9 trains per day) Some trains between Eaux Vives, Annemasse and beyond Some trains Cornavin-Bellegarde-Lyon InterCity trains from the rest of Switzerland, Cornavin and the Airport (numbers are not used today and may change in the future)
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Nice to see some life in my old thread!
![]() Some news, the president of the SBB wants a new a new High Speedl line from Zürich to Bern (in German): http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtscha...story/31821595 |
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