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Old August 22nd, 2009, 07:32 PM   #101
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 09:06 PM   #102
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And there are many more.

Continuing with the EMUs and motor cars.

SBB RBe 540


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In the 1950s the SBB started to replace the pre-war electrical locomotives and EMUs. The RBe 4/4 motorcars where one of the types of trains that where ordered from the Swiss railway industry. It was intended to be used on local trains but also fast trains between the big cities. Therefor it was very powerful of 1988 kW to be able to pull or push longer trains. Now it's only used for local regional trains and also on the S-Bahn Zürich.

Built by: SIG/BBC/MFO
Build date: 1959, 1963–1966
Production: 82
Max Speed: 125 km/h
Capacity: 60 seats (originally 64)

It's been used together with the cars of the Einheitswagen I & II types.

Einheitswagen I

BDt driving trailer

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B in original colors


by Colin Baker on railfaneurope.net

The Einheitswagen I (standard car I) replaced the last old heavy steel and light wooden cars from before the WOII in order to standardize the wagon park of the SBB. They where build in a huge number over 10 years time and are still in service. They have been used on almost every sort of train, from fast trains to S-Bahn trains.

Build date: 1956-1967
Production: 1249
Max Speed: 140 km/h

Einheitswagen II


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by Massimo Rinaldi on railfaneurope.net

Follow up from the EW I in the 1960s, with only small changes they almost look identical. The smaller windows on the end of the cars is the most obvious difference.

Build date: 1965-1976
Production: 798
Max Speed: 140 km/h
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Old August 24th, 2009, 10:01 PM   #103
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RBDe 560 NPZ

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The NPZ "Neue Pendel Zug" (New Shuttle Train) is product of a collaboration of many Swiss railway companies to build a standard train for local services. It has a motor car and a driving trailer, intermediate cars can be added if it's needed. Unlike some of the private railways the SBB didn't order new intermediate cars for these trains but used the old but renovated EW I & II cars.

Built by: Schindler Waggon Altenrhein, BBC Baden / ABB Zürich, SIG Neuhausen
Build date: 1984, 1987–1990
Production: 86
Max Speed: 140 km/h
Capacity: 60 seats (originally 64)

Recently they are going through a modernization program, that gives them a major overhaul. The now even older EW I & II cars will be replaced with new low floor cars from Bombardier for better access for wheelchairs. (Swiss station don't have high platforms). Again no fixed EMUs will be made, so the length of the train is still

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Old August 24th, 2009, 10:41 PM   #104
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RABe 514 DTZ

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The newest double deck trains for the S-Bahn Zürich. These are the first double deck EMUs for the SBB, before these trains they only had the push-pull sets with a locomotive. They were ordered to replace the aging RABDe 12/12 and RBe 540 trains.

Built by: Siemens, with help from Stadler
Build date: 2005 - 2009
Production: 61
Max Speed: 140 km/h
Number of cars: 4
Capacity: 378 seats


RABDe 12/12

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Originaly ordered for the Goldcoast line along the shore of Lake Zürich. Later they became part of the fleet of the S-Bahn Zürich until the end of last year when they where withdrawn from active service and were put in reserve.

Built by: Schindler Waggon Pratteln, FFA, BBC, SAAS
Build date: 1965–1967
Production: 20
Max Speed: 125 km/h
Number of cars: 3
Capacity: 128 seats

Stadler DOSTO





The next generation of EMUs for the S-Bahn Zürich will be the new Stadler Dosto EMU that are based on the Stadler Flirt trains that already run in Switzerland. They will replace the old single deck trains on the S-Bahn and also enable the SBB to increase the frequency on some of the lines.

Built by: Stadler Rail
Build date: 2011
Production: 50
Max Speed: 160 km/h
Number of cars: 6
Capacity: 526 seats

These EMUs were ordered together with new double deck cars for the Re 450 Dosto sets (as seen in post #7) with a low floor entrance. All S-bahn trains will easily accessible for wheel-chair users when these are all in service. Each existing set will get one new car replacing one old 2nd class car. With the cars that become available new sets will be formed, probably with Re 420 locomotives for extra peak-hour services.

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Old May 8th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #105
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Old May 8th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #106
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Old May 8th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #107
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Old May 9th, 2010, 06:24 PM   #108
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there are many SBB trains serving S-bahn of zürich, what about Geneva and Lausanne? don't they have such services?
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Old May 9th, 2010, 07:45 PM   #109
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Geneva has only two suburban lines with a train every 30 minutes stopping at all stations, plus some direct extra service at peaks. But a cross-city tunnel is under construction, service will increase to 2-4 trains per hour on some lines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEVA_rail

Lausanne has some regional trains with quite distant stops served only every hour (except two lines, every 30 minutes). There are plans to increase frequency to up to a train every 15 minutes on one line.

Zug has a single short line with 4 trains per hour.

Berne has three metre gauge lines served every 7 to 15 minutes. Standard gauge lines have less trains because of capacity limits.

Basel has 4 lines served every 30 minutes, a cross-city tunnel is planned.

Ticino/Tessin canton has a quite well developed network despite its small size with three lines with 4 and sometimes 5 trains per hour each (sometime somnibus, sometimes direct) connecting four cities (3x50.000 inhabitants and 1x100.000) separated by a mountain and a lake.

All these services are operated with Stadler Flirt, Bombardier Nina or equivalent stock (single deck, 75 to 150 m in length), except in Zürich where most trains are double deckers and Bern where double deckers will be used soon.

Also in other cities regional trains are often designed with a number for each line, but they aren't really suburban trains.
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thanks for the answer. Why is there such difference in the development level of the railway suburban network between Genève and Zürich? Is the canton of Zürich more pro-active in this sense? or is it caused by organizational problems with the government of france? Because Zürich metropolitan area has more population but the difference is not that large as to explain why that city has 26 different lines while Geneva only has 2
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Old May 10th, 2010, 07:08 AM   #111
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I love taking trains in Switzerland,clean and on time.
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Old May 10th, 2010, 01:04 PM   #112
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Geneva is smaller and has less railway than Zürich.

There are now only three lines. Two meets in Cornavin station, but have different voltage (15 kV AC to Lausanne, 1500 V DC to La Plaine-Bellegarde) and some bottlenecks.

The first part of La Plaine line is single track for 3 km, because even if there are two more tracks in this part they are electrified at 15 kV so french trains can't use them. There is a plan to convert the La Plaine line to 25 kV AC, buy multisystem EMU and make one of the two tracks commutable. I haven't a drawing, but there will then be three tracks: one 25 kV, one that can switch between 15 and 25 kV, and one 15 kV. This will increase capacity as the centre track will be used also by La Plaine trains.

The line to Lausanne had only two tracks until 2004. A third track was then added so suburban service increased from 1 to 2 trains per hour, then 4 tph in the future.

The Eaux Vives-Annemasse-Evian/St Gervais/Annecy lines and branches are all single tracks, and aren't connected to the other two liens reaching Cornavin. Also the line to Annecy is very curved and slow, and buses are faster than trains. There is a project (today known as CEVA) to link this group of lines with Cornavin since 1912 but construction isn't yet really started.

There are also two tangential lines, Bellegarde-Annemasse (one train every two hours) and Bellegarde-Nyon bypassing Geneva (today only freight traffic and partly closed).

Here a map of the network in 2020:

http://etat.geneve.ch/dt/mobilite/ac...ion-10089.html

http://etat.geneve.ch/dt/SilverpeasW...chment/Images/

Today, the lines operating are:
1 between lausanne and Genève Cornavin (1 tph)
2 between Coppet and Lancy Pont Rouge (2 tph)
6 between Cornavin and La Plaine (2 tph) and Bellegarde (9 trains per day)
Some trains between Eaux Vives, Annemasse and beyond
Some trains Cornavin-Bellegarde-Lyon
InterCity trains from the rest of Switzerland, Cornavin and the Airport
(numbers are not used today and may change in the future)
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Old May 10th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #113
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Nice to see some life in my old thread!


Some news, the president of the SBB wants a new a new High Speedl line from Zürich to Bern (in German):
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtscha...story/31821595
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Old May 11th, 2010, 12:39 AM   #114
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Last weekend:
100 years for the Bernina line, the most spectacular and famous narrow-gauge line of the Alps
100 Jahre Berninalinie die Rhätische Bahn
100 anni per la linea del Bernina, la più bella della Ferrovia Retica
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Is the canton of Zürich more pro-active in this sense?
The canton of Zürich is indeed the driving force behind the S-Bahn. It is also the main funder of the S-Bahn.
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I once saw a photo taken inside an old BLS carriage in North Korea, with BLS signs still visible (etched on glass partitions or something, I can't remember).
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I once saw a photo taken inside an old BLS carriage in North Korea, with BLS signs still visible (etched on glass partitions or something, I can't remember).

The pics are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genki_c...7600314232037/
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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:01 PM   #118
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Quote:
Bombardier Wins SF1.9 Billion Train Order, Outbidding Siemens
May 12 (Bloomberg) -- SBB, Switzerland’s federal railways company, chose an offer from Bombardier Inc. for a 1.9 billion Swiss franc ($1.71 billion) train order.

Bombardier’s offer for 59 trains was chosen over a competing one by Siemens AG, and the investment value includes some work carried out by SBB, the railways said at a press conference in Bern today.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...g-siemens.html

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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #119
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what are the parameters of that train?
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Well it will run at 200km/h and has about the same seats per coach as the IC2000. It will run on higher speeds in turns.
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