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Old July 17th, 2013, 07:26 PM   #1221
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CEVA news

The old 19th century railway station of Chêne-Bourg, which is a protected building, has been moved today 40 meters to allow the construction of the CEVA





this is how the pull the building:


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Old July 18th, 2013, 07:43 AM   #1222
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Old July 18th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1223
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A new raillink in Geneva.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/corporation/the...work/ceva.html
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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:26 AM   #1224
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A very nice video showing how looks like the Simplon Tunnel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_oZE-W9mLQ

It is not just a cabride, it also shows the service rooms and she water springs.

The tunnel runs between Brig (CH) and Iselle (I) stations and is split between Switzerland and Italy, but it is entirely managed and owned by (or just conceded to?) SBB (this section of line is "Swiss" up a point just before the switches of Iselle station, which belongs to RFI). Between Iselle and Domodossola the line belongs to RFI (Italian infrastructure manager), but is mostly run following Swiss regulations (signalling, electric current, ...) so that trains complying with usual RFI standards cannot run there. Iselle was too cramped to be a border station, so the only alternative to Domodossola would have been Brig (also in a wide valley floor). A reason why Domodossola has been chosen instead of Brig might be that the other main Swiss-Italian border station of Chiasso is in Switzerland. Also on the two Italy-France main lines the border stations stand on opposite sides: Ventimiglia (coastal route) is in Italy, Modane (Fréjus railway) is in France.

For a tunnel opened in 1906 is also quite modern, with two tubes connected with cross passages and tunnels linking the two tubes in the middle, much like a modern tunnel. Sure, the walkways on the side of the tracks are narrow for modern standards. The tunnel is 20 km long.

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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:14 AM   #1225
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According to this article (http://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/en...-is-shrinking/) Switzerland expanded their railway network by 11 % since 2000. Meaning some 550 km new rail were to be built since then. Hard to believe for me. All the projects right now I can think of are:

45 km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattst...hrist_new_line
35 km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%B...rg_Base_Tunnel
6 km https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlertunnel
19 km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereina_Tunnel

Which 450 kilometers am I missing?
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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:29 AM   #1226
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Does it count the takeover of smaller rail companies?
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Old July 20th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #1227
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A very nice video showing how looks like the Simplon Tunnel:
What are the things in minute 13 and minute 14'30'' they take so much care of?
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Old July 20th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #1228
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Good question. I doubt it's something related to signalling, maybe something about emergency lighting or tubes/pumps transporting away spring water?

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Which 450 kilometers am I missing?
The Lötschberg base line is around 40 km long, the Vereina line is 22 km long, then there are the first part of the Zimmerberg base tunnel (10 km), the new line replacing the old single track one between Yverdon and Neuchâtel (10 km), then some trams and Lausanne metro M2, adding the under construction lines like the CEVA, the DML, the new Gotthard and Ceneri tunnels. Adding these and any other new track, even tramways, we might reach 300 km. But how 550?
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Old July 21st, 2013, 12:47 AM   #1229
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Gotthard and Ceneri must not be taken into consideration as they did not become operational before 2011. It's clear to me now though. The article is bollocks.
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What are chances of the Swiss extending the railway from Scuol into Austria (no major Alpine tunnel needed, since there is a valley there)to Landeck, and then maybe a short tunnel + branch to Merano (Italy)?
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Currently there's zero chance that that line will be constructed in the near future.

The plans are already 100 years old and it never resulted in the construction of the line. The last study into the line by the Kanton Graubünden was published last year. The result was that this plan was designated as a category C project. This is the category of projects that are currently too expensive. In this case it's not so much the construction costs but the operation costs that played the biggest role in the long term postponement of the plan.

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Old July 21st, 2013, 11:47 PM   #1232
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Some photos taken today from the Mendrisio-Varese railway (also known as Stabio-Arcisate) and from the Valmorea railway, the line from which the previous one diverges. Actually these photos shows the doubling and electrification of the firsts 4 km of the Valmorea line.

For more info of these lines look at the previous page ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1172 ).

Note the deep trench, seeing it directly it looked even deeper.

[IMG]http://i42.************/1z663gw.jpg[/IMG]

From here a third track starts, to allow shunting movements from an intermodal terminal.

Position on Google Maps: https://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Stabio...o,+Ticino&z=18

[IMG]http://i44.************/s3mtsy.jpg[/IMG]

Only the shunting track is already in service, for the freight terminal and tourist traffic.

[IMG]http://i39.************/s4otxc.jpg[/IMG]

On the left the Valmorea line wit the switches of the last industrial siding in the background, on the right the new line to Varese. The tracks are temporary, because the line was never closed (for long time) during the works.

[IMG]http://i44.************/2aj1cvn.jpg[/IMG]

The Switzerland (background)-Italy (foreground) border. Until some months ago this gate was still intact, and opened and closed at the passage of every train, despite the footpath on the left the fact that this line (owned by Ferrovie Nord) is not connected to other Italian railways.

[IMG]http://i44.************/2myoqi8.jpg[/IMG]

Malnate railway station. From here the tourist line might be restored to Castiglione Olona, from where the trackbed has been converted to a cycle path. Rolling stock is a Tigerli shunting locomotive followed by some Gotthardbahn coaches, with a non original interior (there are tables and a bar, while these coaches were initially built for regular transport).

The town of Malnate has another station on the Milano-Varese-Laveno line, which still has regular traffic, whose bridge can be seen in the background.

Position on Google Maps: https://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Malnat...a,+Italia&z=18

[IMG]http://i41.************/1puioh.jpg[/IMG]
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Guardia di Finanza already waiting behind the border.
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Yes, the Guardia was always here to open the gate before and close it after the passage of each train, even if from a practical point of view it made little sense as the fence near the gate is interrupted since ages and when there are no trains planned there is nobody controlling the footpath going through the fence (there are some random checks though).

I would assume that no burglar or smuggler is stupid enough to cross the border taking that train, although on the main rail and road border crossings at Chiasso the two border police regularly arrest some smugglers (carrying drug or money).
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I would assume that no burglar or smuggler is stupid enough to cross the border taking that train, although on the main rail and road border crossings at Chiasso the two border police regularly arrest some smugglers (carrying drug or money).
But is it so stupid? I'm not familiar with the situation on the Italian border, but occasionally I take S-Bahn from Basel over the German border to Lorrach or ICE to Freiburg and I've never been approached by customs on these trains. They often walk through the long distance train looking for suspicious persons, but I don't think I've seen them even once on the S-Bahn.

If I was a smuggler I'd take the local train Sunday morning
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That's what I was saying (or just thinking?). From a smuggler's point of view, going where policemen always are is not so intelligent, but apparently is what they do...or it is just that there is a much bigger number of smuggler we are not aware of?

For instance there are often Italians being caught carrying money or gold through the A2 at Chiasso (both ways), but there are many uncontrolled road border crossings nearby...
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When I was moving from Italy to Netherlands and bringing on a large SW car a lot of boxes (mainly books), I drove via the Passo Spluga. It was early on the morning (7am I think, I had left Chiavenna very early), the Guardia di Finanzia stopped me some 4km before the border, they asked about the contents of the boxes, were not satisfied with me saying there were books, brought a scanner and looked over my suitcases as well
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So much for Schengen.

The gate is of course more a fine example of some good old fashioned bureaucracy then it's an example of an active border patrol.
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Only passport control is abolished on Swiss-EU borders, customs still operates. It used to be that everyone had to show his/her passport/ID card when crossing into or out of Switzerland. That is no longer the case.
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Schengen has nothing to do with it.
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