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Old November 27th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #1401
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It has been announced that the first stage of Zurich Cross-city ling (Durchmesserlinie) will be officially opened for traffic 200 days from now (June 15th 2014). Initially it will be only for Zurich S-Bahn which will go use the new Weinberg tunnel from Zurich HB to Oerlikon. Intercity trains from East Switzerland to the West (St Gallen to Geneva, for example) will be able to use the link by the end of 2015 and the whole project is slated to be finished in 2018.

http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/zuerich/ue...hof-1.18192703
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Old November 28th, 2013, 08:57 AM   #1402
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I'm pretty sure they do demount them for summer season. The only purpose those wood barriers fulfill is that of a snow fence i. e. to keep snow drifted by snow away from the track. Wood is the cheapest and sturdiest way to build a removable barrier. Concrete slabs would be a very stupid choice as you'd probably need a crane to move them.
I see different possible solutions to the problem:

1. Build a permanent concrete structure (with emergency doors every 50m so that you don't need to make it into a full-fledged tunnel that requires all safety systems.

2. Build a movable steel panel system (that can me hydraulically lifted in place or put underground, panel by panel, as weather conditions require
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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #1403
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The first one is plain stupid. It's a scenic railway for tourism. Blocking the sight unneccessarily is the dumbest thing you can do.
The second one is just idioticly complicated, unreliable an unneccessarily expensive.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 12:09 AM   #1404
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I see different possible solutions to the problem:

1. Build a permanent concrete structure (with emergency doors every 50m so that you don't need to make it into a full-fledged tunnel that requires all safety systems.

2. Build a movable steel panel system (that can me hydraulically lifted in place or put underground, panel by panel, as weather conditions require
That is a solution in search of a problem
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Old November 29th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #1405
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I don't think I've evern seen before a 4 FLIRT composition, maybe on BLS but never on CFF. Is it common on the line? are they common services like those operated by BLS where the trains divide afterwards to serve different destinations? edit: sorry, I just noticed these are actually not CFF trains!
That was a test train last week on 21 and 22 November.. Have a look at the press release from SOB (only in German):

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Die Schweizerische Südostbahn AG (SOB) und Stadler Rail testeten dieser Tage erfolgreich eine aussergewöhnliche Zugkomposition zwischen Herisau und Sargans, eine 4-fach-Traktion.


Nach der Zulassung der letzten Flirts der zweiten Serie sind nun 23 Flirt-Fahrzeuge bei der SOB im Einsatz. Fahrzeuge der ersten und der zweiten Serie können kombiniert werden. Inwieweit die Befehlsübergabe bei vier Zügen funktioniert, testeten dieser Tage die Spezialisten von Stadler Rail und der SOB. Die 4-fach-Traktion mass 300 Meter Länge und wog 480 Tonnen. Die SOB-Flirts können bei ihrer Fahrt rund um den Säntis bis 160 km/h erreichen und werden ab dem Fahrplanwechsel rund um den Säntis unterwegs sein.

In der Regel sind zwei Flirts allenfalls drei in Kombination im Einsatz. Die Fahrzeuge sind zwar für die 4-fach-Traktion zugelassen, werden aber kaum je in dieser Komposition regulär eingesetzt werden, zumal auch die Bahnhöfe entlang der Strecke nicht auf derartig lange Züge ausgelegt sind. Nach dem Warum dieser langen Komposition befragt, erläuterte SOB-Projektleiter Hanspeter Schenk: «Wir wollten prüfen, ob die Befehlsübertragung vom bedienten Führerraum über die Leittechnik bis zum Zugschluss funktioniert – und das hat bestens geklappt.»


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Old December 2nd, 2013, 05:53 PM   #1406
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Durchmesserlinie Zürich DML cross city link update:













source: http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/...story/20628841
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Old December 5th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #1407
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That was a test train last week on 21 and 22 November.. Have a look at the press release from SOB (only in German):
Is Stadler planning at least the full replace of Flirt II by Flirt III?
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Old December 5th, 2013, 09:50 PM   #1408
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The renovation works of the Geneva train station are reaching the final steps today the renovated Hall was finally open, although obviously furniture and shops are still missing on one side

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Old December 13th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #1409
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Old December 15th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #1410
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Today is the date of the annual timetable change in Switzerland. The major news is the establishment of St Gallen S-Bahn network in Eastern Switzerland. The overall effect is about 30% more trains in St Gallen station, half hourly intervals for most connections, 15 min for few busier routes. Few smaller stations will see less connections though because some express routes have been sped up by eliminating less used stops.

Here is a map of the new network: http://sbahn-sg.ch/fileadmin/Images/...ennetzplan.pdf

Some articles about this new development:
http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/ost...id2567640.html
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn_St._Gallen

You might notice that Appenzeller Bahn is not part of this network. The reason is that because of a steep terrain some routes use rack and pinion (not sure if I translated that correctly) thus limiting speeds and frequencies. There is a plan to fix this by building a tunnel (opening in 2016). From 2014 S3 will be extended once an hour to Bregenz in Austria and from 2015 there will be a tri-national connection from Buchs to Feldkirch (Austria) via Lichtenstein.

Minor changes in the rest of the Swiss network, the three most noticeable probably being elimination of food carts in the long distance trains (restaurant cars stay), increase of travel time between Zurich and Milan by 20 min (to improve connections they say, but more likely to deal with never ending delays originating in Italy) and temporary introduction of Zurich-Munich buses because of delayed electrification works between Lindau and Munich in Germany.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 10:52 PM   #1411
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Already now the Austrian S3 is very well connected with S-Bahn St. Gallen at St. Margrethen (connections ever half an hour during peak times).
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Old December 15th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #1412
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From 2014 S3 will be extended once an hour to Bregenz in Austria and from 2015 there will be a tri-national connection from Buchs to Feldkirch (Austria) via Lichtenstein.
Are there plans for building a station within Liechtenstein, then maybe a tramway to Vaduz?
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Old December 16th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #1413
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Are there plans for building a station within Liechtenstein, then maybe a tramway to Vaduz?
In principle there are already 3 stations on this route within Lichtenstein with Schaan-Vaduz being the closest to Vaduz itself (3.5 km). By the way Schaan is the largest town in Lichtenstein. I haven't heard about any plans to build any rail transport between those two towns. Probably no need - a simple city bus connection should do just fine.

Right now the local rail traffic on this route is very low and irregular (5-6 regional trains a day) and the real traffic is done with buses, but as I mentioned all that will change in 2015 when there will be a half hourly S-bahn covering this route. The reason for so few local connections is that a lot of freight and long distance passenger trains between Switzerland and Austria use this single track route.
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So rail links A <=> CH are as subpar as road links (there are two parallel freeways on both sides, yet they don't have a direct link between both countries).
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It's not a great link for sure, but the reason it has taken so long to upgrade is that it connects one the least densely populated areas in Switzerland with the same in Austria. There is more than 200 km from St Gallen to Innsbruck, the first sizeable Austrian city, over mountainous landscape.
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Yes, the Voralberg Railway is slow and needs improvements to bring Innsbruck and the future Brennero base tunnel within easier reach of Switzerland
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Yes, the Voralberg Railway is slow and needs improvements to bring Innsbruck and the future Brennero base tunnel within easier reach of Switzerland
Why? We'll have our own base tunnel to Italy and much sooner than the one in Austria. Improvements for local traffic are more worthwhile on this route and those will happen.
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Why? We'll have our own base tunnel to Italy and much sooner than the one in Austria.
Do you mean the CBT?
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So rail links A <=> CH are as subpar as road links (there are two parallel freeways on both sides, yet they don't have a direct link between both countries).
It's "sub par" only on your imagination (as per usual...)
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Right now the local rail traffic on this route is very low and irregular (5-6 regional trains a day) and the real traffic is done with buses, but as I mentioned all that will change in 2015 when there will be a half hourly S-bahn covering this route. The reason for so few local connections is that a lot of freight and long distance passenger trains between Switzerland and Austria use this single track route.
There's 18 train pairs on that route, 9 of them stop in Schaan, so it's already somewhat better.
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