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Old November 9th, 2010, 04:52 PM   #141
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Old November 9th, 2010, 09:01 PM   #142
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Oh god, the old BOB livery was so much better.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 10:53 PM   #143
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Most swiss companeis, not only railways but also bus companies, have changed the old pleasant livreries with new, mostily uglier, ones.

Look at this bus, before and after. Also TPC (the group of AL-ASD-AOMC-BVB) choose new disgsuting colours.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 07:18 PM   #144
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Breakthrough of the Weinbergtunnel:
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Weinbergtunnel in Zürich durchstochen
Fünf Wochen nach dem Durchstich am Gotthard wurde in Zürich der Weinbergtunnel nach einer Panne doch noch durchschlagen. Der rund fünf Kilometer lange Tunnel ist ein Kernstück einer Durchmesserlinie und wird auch dem Fernverkehr dienen.


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Old November 22nd, 2010, 08:16 PM   #145
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Old November 28th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #146
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The 7th december will be the last day of operation of one part of the Luzern-Engelberg line, more or less this one, that climbs a 250 mm/m grade (1 in 4). From the 8th to the 11th the trains will be replaced by buses, then the 12th the new 4 km long Engelbergtunnel will be opened to traffic. Travel time will be reduced from 61 to 51 minutes but passengers will loose the nice view of the woods (as the railway runs throught a lot of trees, the panorama is not that great anyway).
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Old November 28th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #147
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The 7th december will be the last day of operation of one part of the Luzern-Engelberg line, more or less this one, that climbs a 250 mm/m grade (1 in 4). From the 8th to the 11th the trains will be replaced by buses, then the 12th the new 4 km long Engelbergtunnel will be opened to traffic. Travel time will be reduced from 61 to 51 minutes but passengers will loose the nice view of the woods (as the railway runs throught a lot of trees, the panorama is not that great anyway).
Finally, it took them way too long to built this tunnel with all the problems it had. 9 years for 4 kilometers just shows that tunneling trough the mountains never gets easy.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:25 PM   #148
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Because of the 246 mm/m slope trains are limited in length. At peak times they leave Lucerne with 6 or 7 coaches, and leave some of them in Wolfenschiessen, a station before the slope, continuing with only 2 or 3 coaches and a single car EMU usually placed on the valley side (for safety reasons). The coaches detached from the asending train are taken over by the next descending train.

Downhill train near the tunnel portal near Engelberg.





Grünenwald stop. This together with Obermatt will remain without any service from the 12th December.







Obermatt as seen from the same place as the photo above.



Beginning of the ramp in Obermatt and the hydroelectric power station feeding the railway.



Valley portal at around 600 m above sea level, around 400 m below the other portal.



All photos were taken in July 2009 and show the part of line that will be closed. The short part of line between the valley portal and Obermatt will remain in place for the near future because it is used to feed the railway with electricity. The rest of the line will be demolished.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:53 PM   #149
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Other photos taken on the 28th November.

Double gauge switch.



Obermatt.



Grünenwald.





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Old December 7th, 2010, 06:22 PM   #150
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just a few hours before the clousure

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Cisalpino's nightmare seems endless: http://mct.sbb.ch/mct/konzern_dienst...05BE91FBCB9E63

Briefly, for the Milan-Zürich route (I have added some other informations other than those in the link above):
- passengers of 2 train pairs out of 8 will have to change trains in Chiasso because some ETR 470 will undergo heavy maintenance
- as the ETR 610 cannot tilt, one train pair using them will officially have a delay of 20 minutes (the other 7 will have an unofficial random delay between 5 and 40 minutes as usual)
- these 8 train pairs will have until the end of January a backup train between Zürich and Chiasso running on time because there will certainly be enormous delays for the regular EC CIS trains
- the other 6 train pairs cancelled in December 2008 will obviously not reinstated at least until 2016 leading to overcrowding of some trains (standing passengers)
- considering that the normal schedule is based on 4 ETR 470 running and 5 as spare or in maintenance, but even that 20 minutes delays are common, I expect even worse delays when half of the fleet is out of service and there will be no spare set to replace delayed or broken trains
- I remind that the worst result of the extremely unreliable ETR 470 was achieved around autumn 2009 when 6 trains out of 9 were out of service due to various failures
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:10 AM   #151
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those trains couldn't be more disastrous, I wonder for how long is SBB-CFF going to retain them, even if they are relatively new, new trainsets should be purchased (no need to say fiat-alstom shouldn't be allowed to participate in the bid), I hope they don't wait until GBT is opened
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those trains couldn't be more disastrous, I wonder for how long is SBB-CFF going to retain them, even if they are relatively new, new trainsets should be purchased (no need to say fiat-alstom shouldn't be allowed to participate in the bid), I hope they don't wait until GBT is opened
They are going to wait till the GBT is opened before putting different trains on this service, and this for good reason. The GBT will increase the range of rolling stock that can be used on the route, as it will be cleared to a larger loading gauge, and higher speeds will be possible without needing tilting trains. There is no need to buy yet another set of tilting trains.
I think that once the GVT is open it will be the end for the ETR 470. The ETR 610 seems to be more reliable, so it will probably be around a bit longer.

SBB is currently looking to purchase more trainsets for international services. They will probably want to buy something that is compatible with both France and Italy and it currently looks like SBB might actually buy some Alsthom TGV Dasye sets. From a point of view of buying something proven and reliable that would be a good choice.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 12:07 PM   #153
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The GBT will allow double deck trains (built to swiss highest loading gauge - low double deck trains (that SBB doesn't own) are already possible), but the few tunnels on access lines will not.

The idea now seems to order more ETR 610, partly as refund for the delays in the delivery of the first 14.

As for the ETR 470, they are quite confortable and some train drivers consider them quite good if not better than the ICN...when they don't broke down (they are quite unreliable - but I suspect it's also lack of maintenance...). Apart from the 470 the problem is that the timetable is too optimsitic especially between Lugano and Milano where it's easy to have delay.
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Apart from the 470 the problem is that the timetable is too optimsitic especially between Lugano and Milano where it's easy to have delay.
The timetable already has a large amount of padding on that line. I recently was on a Milano bound train that arrive in Como 2 minutes late. It then was kept there for another 30 minutes as the Italians seem to think that as soon as SBB delivers them a train late by even a minute that means they have a free pass to let the delay balloon even further. However, we still arrived in Milano only 15 minute late...
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What day of the week was, and what train did you take?

There are sometimes miracles (the record was when a traditional train replacing an ETR arrived on time in Milan (or was it Zürich?) even if it had to change the locomotive in Chiasso), but usually it isn't easy to recover delays.
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The 7th december will be the last day of operation of one part of the Luzern-Engelberg line, more or less this one, that climbs a 250 mm/m grade (1 in 4). From the 8th to the 11th the trains will be replaced by buses, then the 12th the new 4 km long Engelbergtunnel will be opened to traffic. Travel time will be reduced from 61 to 51 minutes but passengers will loose the nice view of the woods (as the railway runs throught a lot of trees, the panorama is not that great anyway).
First 2 minutes from inside of the new tunnel:



Section of track bypaseed by the new tunnel:

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very nice pictures

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Old December 25th, 2010, 01:20 PM   #158
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And a video of this particular route:

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Old December 29th, 2010, 12:06 AM   #160
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The Gotthard Rail Tunnel and the national road 2 above it. The train and the green light of the signal are the only colours different from white, grey and light blue.



Again the railway and the N2.



First and second bridge of the N2, as seen from the railway bridge.



The Urnerloch, one of the first Swiss road tunnels. It was built as a replacement of the path running above the gorges of the Reuss river from October 1707 to August 1708. It is long 64 metres and it was originally 2.4 m wide and 2.7 m high.



All photos taken the 27th December 2010.
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