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Old April 7th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #1621
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Except for Glacier Express trains, how are the (regular) trains of the Gotthard-Matterhorn Railway usually scheduled and sectioned?
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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:37 PM   #1622
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There are hourly all-stop services on the line, cut in 3 segments.

Zermatt - Visp - Brig

Visp - Brig - Andermatt - Göschenen

Andermatt - Oberalppas - Disentis/Mustér


In winter there are extra services between:

Zermatt - Visp
Andermatt - Oberalppas


Standard timetables for a Zermatt - Disentis return trip.






www.matterhorngotthardbahn.ch/en/
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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:49 PM   #1623
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:27 starts the R 844 to Disentis
:37 the train from Göschenen to Visp departs Andermatt.
:28 the R 554 from Visp to Göschenen departs in Andermatt.
:48 the train from Andermatt to Göschenen starts which comes back at :03

I doubt the situation could be improved without more trains between Andermatt and Göschenen. And let's get this straight, I only support a Mini Porta Alpina for a price tag which is clearly under 100 million, and if a changes between all four trains (northbound, southbound, westbound and eastbound) are possible.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #1624
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Disentis Mustér-Andermatt
Göschenen-Andermatt-Fiesch-Brig-Visp
Brig-Visp-Zermatt

In the future they will likely be:

Disentis Mustér-Andermatt-Fiesch-Brig-Visp
Fiesch-Brig-Visp-Zermatt
Göschenen-Andermatt

This because the Göschenen-Andermatt line requires special vehicles (for example, 3-car Komet EMUs are allowed, 4-car ones aren't), and the MGB wants to maintain a smaller dedicated fleet.
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I thought the line up to Zermatt was steeper than the Goeschenen-Andermatt sector.
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The steepest segment between Göschenen and Andermatt is 179‰. The steepest segment between Visp and Zermatt is just 125‰, and between Brig - Andermatt - Disentis it's 110‰ max.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #1627
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Oberalp line 110 pm
old Furka line 120 pm
Göschenen-Andermatt (Schöllenenbahn) 180 pm
Visp-Zermatt 125 pm
Gornergratbahn 200 pm (continuation of the Zermattbahn)

edit: again at the same time as Momo...
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For comparison:

Gotthard line = 28‰
Albula line = 35‰
Bernina line = 70‰
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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #1629
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AlpTransit lines = 12‰ (up to 21‰ Ceneri-Chiasso and 27‰ Iselle-Domodossola, because of the existing lines)
Steepest slope on what are usually considered freight mainlines = 30 to 33‰, sometimes 40 (around the world)
Last section to Engelberg = 246‰ (now replaced by a tunnel, ~110‰)
Mount Washington = 380‰
Pilatusbahn = 480‰
steepeest funiculars = ~1100‰ (Gelmerbahn & Katoomba funicular)
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Are trains on this railway to Engelberg flat or staggered (like the one going to Mt. Pilatus)?
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Maybe it would be possible to have a system including the Göschenen-Andermatt train, but if this is possible, why isn't it done yet?
What do you mean by that?
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Are trains on this railway to Engelberg flat or staggered (like the one going to Mt. Pilatus)?
They're pretty normal trains. That line is not that steep, and mostly adhesion.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 07:09 AM   #1633
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Except for Glacier Express trains, how are the (regular) trains of the Gotthard-Matterhorn Railway usually scheduled and sectioned?
You can download pages of the printed timetable here:
www.fahrplanfelder.ch

For example:
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadm...s/2014/142.pdf
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Old April 8th, 2014, 09:59 AM   #1634
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What do you mean by that?
Sorry there was something missing because I rearranged my sentence.

What I mean is, a integrated junction system serving all four directions and it connections. Currently two connections (South to west, north to east) are not integrated.
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The perfect moment to integrate the Gotthard and the MGB timetables at Göschenen is the opening of the tunnel. The new timetable over the old Gotthard line should be less dictated by the (lack of) capacity and the (half-) hourly nodes at the big stations in the northern cities.
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Tehre is not that freedom if you want to maintain connections and a not too long travel time fo those who don't change in Göschenen.

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They're pretty normal trains. That line is not that steep, and mostly adhesion.
They are and were similar to MGB trains. However 246 pm was steep.
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Old April 14th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #1637
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Some more pictures from the DML Zürich:















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From Rail Journal:

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Testing starts on Zürich cross-city link
Wednesday, April 16, 2014



TRIAL operations have begun on Zürich's new Durchmesserlinie (DML) cross-city link, which is due to open on June 15, with a total of 60 test trains passing through the new Löwenstrasse station beneath Zürich's existing main station over the weekend of April 12-13.

These included all types of train used on the Zürich S-Bahn network as well long-distance ICN and IC2000 trains, with passenger information systems being tested for both regular runs and with simulated disruptions. A full-scale evacuation procedure with 500 people was carried out the previous week.

The DML is the biggest urban construction project in Switzerland, linking Altstetten with Zürich Main Station before curving under the city centre to Oerlikon with the new Weinberg tunnel.

Testing was carried out at Löwenstrasse station, which has four tracks, and Oerlikon, which has been expanded by two tracks to eight, although only six will remain in use after construction work at this station has been finished. The section between the Main Station and Altstetten is still under construction and due for completion next year.

The new link will shorten transit times for connections between east and west Switzerland can be significantly and create new direct links. It will also help to ease congestion at Zürich's Main Station, which on a normal weekday is used by almost half a million passengers.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 01:57 PM   #1639
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Some pictures of the classy TRANS EUROP EXPRESS trainset RAe TEE II from 1961. These trains were capable to run under all 4 significant european railway power supply systems (15000 V 16,7 Hz AC, 25000 V 50 Hz AC, 3000 V DC, 1500 V DC) with up to 160 km/h. It is again operational and was tested under these 4 electric systems some days ago.











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Old April 23rd, 2014, 01:50 AM   #1640
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^ Nice, get that thing passed for the Channel Tunnel and it could go pretty much anywhere (electrified) . Is it being put back into service on a tourist line? If so I would take that, looks amazing.
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