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Old May 31st, 2014, 05:20 PM   #1741
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Currently only S6 from Zell im Wiesental does that. It would be useful if regional DB trains from Freiburg continued to SBB as well.
It's true that at the moment most regional trains from Freiburg end in Basel Bad. But this will change once the renovation of the old Rhine bridge is finished.
SBB build a new bridge, and this is now in use, but they are now renovating the old one. Once both are in use more trains can run from Basel Bad to Basel SBB.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #1742
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According to Railway Gazette, both Alstom and Talgo are to appeal against SBB's selection of Stadler to supply trains for the Gotthard base tunnel.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 11:35 AM   #1743
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Railway connection to EuroAirport will also allow direct connection for Strasbourg, Selestat and Colmar cities with 1 hour travel time starting from Strasbourg and even Belfort/Montbeliard with less than 1 hour travel time.

The train station platfoms will be compliant to TGV specifications (especially in term of platform length), however there is no plan for TGV stops at this train station currently.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 04:23 PM   #1744
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Alstom hands over new Pendolinos to SBB
Wednesday, June 04, 2014



ALSTOM handed over the first of eight additional ETR 610 Pendolino EMUs to Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) at its Savigliano plant in northern Italy on June 3.

SBB placed a €200m order for the 250km/h multi-system trains in July 2012, exercising an option from a contract for seven trains signed in March 2004 by Alstom and Cisalpino, the now defunct joint venture between Trenitalia and SBB.

The seven-car trains will seat 430 passengers and will operate alongside the existing sets on Milan – Geneva/Basle and Milan – Zürich services from December, replacing SBB's unreliable ETR 470 Pendolinos, which will be withdrawn.

The use of ETR 610s on the Gotthard route will only be a temporary measure as the trains are due to be replaced from 2019 onwards by new EC250 EMUs recently ordered by SBB from Stadler
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Old June 4th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #1745
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And what will happen with these newly delivered trains after 2019?

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Old June 4th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #1746
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It is not decided yet, but possible routes I heard about include Zürich-Brussels via the LGV Est and Zörich-München (although they are and will not be certified for France and Belgium yet).

Or they may continue to run to Italy, together with the new Stadler trains.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 01:38 AM   #1747
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The ZVV (Zürich Transport Network) has uploaded a clip for advertising the opening of the DML.



The message is: "For all who have to travel really fast through Zürich"
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Progress on new Rosshausern tunnel on Bern–Neuchâtel route (used by S-Bahn Basel and TGV Lyria), taken from June leaflet from BLS's website:










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Old June 5th, 2014, 08:42 PM   #1749
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More infos about it from this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1#post96370221
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It is not decided yet, but possible routes I heard about include Zürich-Brussels via the LGV Est and Zörich-München (although they are and will not be certified for France and Belgium yet).

Or they may continue to run to Italy, together with the new Stadler trains.
The last thing that I read about it is that they will be transferred to the Simplon Axis, without giving a further explanation on how that will turn out operationally together with the sets from the first order that are already being used there.
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Railway connection to EuroAirport will also allow direct connection for Strasbourg, Selestat and Colmar cities with 1 hour travel time starting from Strasbourg and even Belfort/Montbeliard with less than 1 hour travel time.

The train station platfoms will be compliant to TGV specifications (especially in term of platform length), however there is no plan for TGV stops at this train station currently.
A usefull offer would be:
- TER200 every half hour Basel - Strassbourg with stops at the airport and then Mulhouse, Colmar and Selestat.
- S1 every half hour Basel - Airport - all stops to Mulhouse - Mulheim - Freiburg.
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The last thing that I read about it is that they will be transferred to the Simplon Axis, without giving a further explanation on how that will turn out operationally together with the sets from the first order that are already being used there.
The sets ought to be compatible with the existing sets, so I don't see operational problems. The sets will allow to increase the services on both Basel - Bern - Milano and Geneve - Brig - Milano. SBB wants to run at least 4 return trips on both routes. At the moment there is a big gap in services in the middle.
Also with these trains SBB could again run trains to destinations beyond Milano. Apart from Geneve - Venezia I'm thinking about Basel - Genova and Geneve - Ancona for example.
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It is not decided yet, but possible routes I heard about include Zürich-Brussels via the LGV Est and Zörich-München (although they are and will not be certified for France and Belgium yet).
Zürich - Brussel is apparently of the table. A pity. That route really needs some improvement in the service offered.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #1754
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Zustandserhaltung bestehender Tunnel = I don't understand clearly, it sounds like "maintaining the tunnel as it is"
They are going to maintain the integrity of the tunnel. After all, letting it just collapse has all kinds of unpleasant consequences. I wouldn't be surprised if it was even reused as part of a bike route (together with the old alignment).
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Old June 5th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #1755
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The sets will allow to increase the services on both Basel - Bern - Milano and Geneve - Brig - Milano. SBB wants to run at least 4 return trips on both routes.
Which would still be less than what there was until 2008 or so (5 Geneva and 4 Basel via the Simplon).

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The last thing that I read about it is that they will be transferred to the Simplon Axis, without giving a further explanation on how that will turn out operationally together with the sets from the first order that are already being used there.
29+15=44 sets approved in Italy and Germany are a lot of trains, that's why I heard of services like Milano-Zürich-Frankfurt and more services Switzerland-Venice.

Basically, what was offered when most ECs were run with conventional stock, thought...

(conventional stock on Switzerland-Italy EuroCitys disappeared in 2009: during the timetable period December 2008-Decemebr 2009 there were just 3 Milano-Geneva and 3 Milano-Bellinzona train pairs - without counting conventional stock replacing ETRs, which is used even now)
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Old June 5th, 2014, 11:07 PM   #1756
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Which international services are currently being run by SBB? I'm aware only of routes to Milan plus some suburban routes here in Basel area…
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Entirely run by SBB? None, but there are many international services operated jountly by neighbors companies.
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Entirely run by SBB? None, but there are many international services operated jountly by neighbors companies.
I meant with Swiss trains. Kind of like ICE or TGV within Switzerland. I know the crews are Swiss and SBB is involved, but the trains are still essentially German and French.
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Zürich - Brussel is apparently of the table. A pity. That route really needs some improvement in the service offered.
Isn't that route faster via the LGV Est + LGV Nord + HSL-1?
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Isn't that route faster via the LGV Est + LGV Nord + HSL-1?
I'm pretty sure it is. SBB website offers routes via Paris and via Frankfurt. The former is 50 min faster and that is including 45 min for changing stations in Paris.

Is it possible to switch from LGV Est to LGV Nord without entering Paris? If so another hour could be saved on this route. 5 1/2 h trip would already be attractive to significant number of people.
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