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Old July 24th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #61
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Maybe next they can make apartment trams? Fit them out with a kitchen and bathroom, living room and bedroom, and you have the ultimate travelling flat!


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Old July 26th, 2007, 08:07 AM   #62
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Nice Karachi tram. During the coverage of the Commonwealth Games there, the host of the Canadian broadcast of the games actually took a ride in one and we followed him along on it on our TVs.

Are those trams a permanent thing or were they just for a celebration of Pakistani culture?
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Old July 27th, 2007, 06:37 AM   #63
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Temporary thing as part of the Commonwealth Games. The artists were allowed to decorate the tram which was one introduced in the 1970s and withdrawn a few years ago.
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Old August 6th, 2007, 03:58 AM   #64
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A tram in Melbourne; very befitting for this thread:

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Old August 9th, 2007, 03:03 AM   #65
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Trams a long way from the city centre:

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Tram's actually go out much further than this, about twice/three times as far. You'd be silly to catch one all the way in to the city, it'd take hours. But they're still good for getting around the local area.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 03:05 AM   #66
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Interesting to note a Citadis on route 70, where they've never been used before. Probably testing so as to introduce them in the near future.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 12:53 PM   #67
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Which suburbs is that Gappa?

South Yarra-ish?
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Old August 9th, 2007, 03:58 PM   #68
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Which suburbs is that Gappa?

South Yarra-ish?
Out east in Camberwell.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 05:23 PM   #69
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Couldn't resist grabbing the camera when I saw this LAST WEEKEND ... almost a train in Bourke St ...



But they parted ...



Down in dinghy old Flinders St. , the trams are older & shorter, but they're free ...

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Old August 12th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #70
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Didn't know Melbourne has such an extensive network.
Is it still being expanded nowadays?
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Old August 12th, 2007, 04:41 PM   #71
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now and then; not on a regular basis. The map below shows 2 lines under construction.

Melbourne allegedly has the largest tram system in the English-speaking world: the next extension will be the western extension of the Collins St. line, but that could be some years off.

The Docklands line "under construction" in the map below is now completed and in use.

The longest lines are Bunboora (just under 20 km from the CBD) and Vermont Sth (over 20 km). These lines are coloured blue, because they extebd into "zone 2" of our fare system. The end of the Vermont Sth line still seems to be under construction, since the trams are still running to "Burwood East".


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Old August 14th, 2007, 09:45 AM   #72
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Vermont South opened about a year ago. Every tram has a connecting bus to Knox City Shopping Centre.

But I think on the trams which do not have electronic destination boards, they never updated the blinds to display "Vermont South", although I think in that case they usually have a cardboard sign on the windscreen. It shouldn't be much of a problem since the route is almost exclusively served by B class trams, which should be able to display "Vermont South".

I'm not sure whether Burwood East still has facilities to terminate trams - if it does, it's also possible that a late running tram might be turned around before the terminus.

Future extensions include Collins St in the Docklands and route 75 from Vermont South to Knox City in the longer term. There are lots of people who would like route 3 and 67 trams to be extended to the railway stations of the same name, and possibly beyond. Expanding into the middle/outer suburbs would be nice but the need is debatable given that buses do a decent job in the middle suburbs, and many parts of the sprawly outer suburbs are a lost cause. The tram network is less in need of expansion than the rail or bus network, where the priorities should be.

The next bit of major spending on the network is to retire the rest of the Z Class trams, and take W class trams off regular routes because they are slow and do not comply with DDA regulations. Major route construction, especially expansion into new areas, would probably require additions to the fleet and new depots to house them.
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thanks ... re Vermont Sth, I stand corrected.
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Is there any merit in building orbital tramlines linking Melbourne's inner north and inner east systems, which would enable people to travel directly between these areas without going through the city? I don't know Melbourne very well but I'm thinking along Punt Road, perhaps? Just an idea...
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Is there any merit in building orbital tramlines linking Melbourne's inner north and inner east systems, which would enable people to travel directly between these areas without going through the city? I don't know Melbourne very well but I'm thinking along Punt Road, perhaps? Just an idea...
We have Church/Chapel St., Glenferrie Rd & Burke Rd ... Punt Rd. is a no-no, it used to be the busiest road in Melbourne (not sure if it still is, but it's busy).
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Old August 15th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #76
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It's probably quicker to take a train into the city and another train out if you're travelling between inner city areas.

Pretty much every major destination in the inner city has good access to a railway station anyway.
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Nice Karachi tram. During the coverage of the Commonwealth Games there, the host of the Canadian broadcast of the games actually took a ride in one and we followed him along on it on our TVs.

Are those trams a permanent thing or were they just for a celebration of Pakistani culture?
Actually the Karachi tram remains. I think they bring it out one night a week on the city circle route - or at least that's what I remember reading somewhere....
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Actually the Karachi tram remains. I think they bring it out one night a week on the city circle route - or at least that's what I remember reading somewhere....
would have been cool to bring them out this week, Aug 14 was the 60th anniversary of Pakistan, August 15th the 60th for India.

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Old August 18th, 2007, 09:16 AM   #79
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*shudder* now i'm getting flashbacks of all the times i've caught that Bundoora tram from RMIT all the way into the city center. and back again. Bring a book... and you might even finish it before you reach the other end!
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:25 AM   #80
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In news just in Yarra Trams have been awarded the operating licence until the end of 2009. The licence will be put up to tender and the winner will continue services after then.
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