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Old June 20th, 2007, 07:58 PM   #181
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I miss Paris's metro. Those photos remind me how I felt like I was in the land of Dr. Zeuss travelling underground there -- also, a neat small-community feel to that metro network in the massive city there.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #182
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I don't really get the map of route M10. Is it a one way loop? Or both ways with the end section served by trains going in one direction?
I think the line splits, eg: westbound goes one route and eastbound the other and then they meet up at both ends.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 10:41 PM   #183
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Actually Paris metro has introduce contacless card before London underground.

In 2001 for Paris.
In 2002 for London.


The maps of the line 10, actually Iampuking has right.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 12:44 AM   #184
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Is any of the Paris Metro ATO?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 01:03 AM   #185
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All the lines of Paris metro have ATO exept the least busy lines 3bis, 7bis and 10 since the 70's.
The ATO systems of Paris metro are actually in remplacement by new systems called Ouragan. It will be installated in the line 10.

The line 14 is driverless and the line 1 will become driverless in 2010.

A train for testing the new ATO system.


EDIT : The ATO was tested in Paris metro with passenger in 1951, with the first metro with rubber-tired.
But it was only a test in few month.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 01:29 AM   #186
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but Parisians seem to have a reputation for being rude!
Don't agree. They are mostly very friendly actually.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 02:33 AM   #187
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All the lines of Paris metro have ATO exept the least busy lines 3bis, 7bis and 10 since the 70's.
The ATO systems of Paris metro are actually in remplacement by new systems called Ouragan. It will be installated in the line 10.

The line 14 is driverless and the line 1 will become driverless in 2010.

A train for testing the new ATO system.


EDIT : The ATO was tested in Paris metro with passenger in 1951, with the first metro with rubber-tired.
But it was only a test in few month.
Thanks for that, do you mean ATO was on a passenger carrying train briefly in 1951 for testing?

And Micro, I don't know whether Parisians are rude or not, i've never been there, it's just their reputation really.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 12:14 PM   #188
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Yes it was in this train the MP51.


in a branch between the line 3bis and 7bis built in 1920. (Now closed, it was only utilised for this test.)

A study is being undertaken into the merger of Lines 3bis and 7bis, using the existing currently un-trafficked infrastructure between the two lines, and therefore opening Haxo for passenger use. The combined lines would be known as Line 15 from Château-Landon to Gambetta.




Haxo this station would be opened one hundred years after its construction.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 02:50 AM   #189
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Don't agree. They are mostly very friendly actually.
I agree, they are very friendly. The last time I've visited the underground was with Christmas. If someone step in to a metrocar who was old, pregnant or disabled, everybody stood up to give them their seat. The only thing about the Paris people is that they can't speak English. They do try to help you. Only the Paris Student and Youth speak English.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 03:49 AM   #190
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I agree, they are very friendly. The last time I've visited the underground was with Christmas. If someone step in to a metrocar who was old, pregnant or disabled, everybody stood up to give them their seat. The only thing about the Paris people is that they can't speak English. They do try to help you. Only the Paris Student and Youth speak English.
It's fair enough IMO. Visitors should at least learn basic French when going there.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 09:34 AM   #191
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So, if I visit Sweden, I should learn basic Swedish?. I know a few French words like: Sortie, Baguette, Pain, Frommage. I can manage myself with that. Bud I don't care, it is the beauty wich comes with the underground not the English knowledge of it's travelers.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 10:16 AM   #192
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So, if I visit Sweden, I should learn basic Swedish?. I know a few French words like: Sortie, Baguette, Pain, Frommage. I can manage myself with that. Bud I don't care, it is the beauty wich comes with the underground not the English knowledge of it's travelers.
Of course, you shouldn't, but it can be a good start saying "hello", "good morning" and some other basic sentences to open others minds.

In Paris I found that almost everybody were really friendly when I started trying some French, unfortunately cannot say the same about the woman at Versailles info point, she was very rude and was the exception of a wonderful trip.


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The line 14 is driverless and the line 1 will become driverless in 2010.
And what do the workers unions say about it?
Could a strike be possible?
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 01:08 PM   #193
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I don't know, France is the country of strike, but the transformation of the line 1 has already started.

For being in Paris the better words for the food are : Kebab, Riz cantonais, coucous...
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 01:23 PM   #194
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 02:26 PM   #195
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So, if I visit Sweden, I should learn basic Swedish?. I know a few French words like: Sortie, Baguette, Pain, Frommage. I can manage myself with that. Bud I don't care, it is the beauty wich comes with the underground not the English knowledge of it's travelers.
Yes. I think you should.

You can't go to a foreign country and expect everyone to speak your language. I don't think i'd like it if a tourist came up to me and started speaking Russian.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 03:23 PM   #196
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Yes. I think you should.

You can't go to a foreign country and expect everyone to speak your language. I don't think i'd like it if a tourist came up to me and started speaking Russian.
That's the point, I do "hate" people who starts speaking English directly (or any other language..), but if they just try to say "hola", that's enough and I'll like to practice my owfull English and then celebrate it with some drinks

Why the h**l must I understand those languages when you don't mine? You don't deserve my dyplomatic skills
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It's fair enough IMO. Visitors should at least learn basic French when going there.
The phrase "Parlez-vous Anglais?" is the most essential one because if you start talking to a Parisian in English right away he or she will most likely pretend being deaf
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 06:40 PM   #198
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So, if I visit Sweden, I should learn basic Swedish?
In Scandinavia you can behave as if being in UK or USA because everybody, no matter if youngster or elderly, speaks perfect English.
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 12:02 AM   #199
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This the maps of Paris metro (RER not include) at acurate scale.
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 12:29 AM   #200
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minato ku, that's an awesome map. I can hardly wait to visit Paris next year and visit all the subway stations.
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