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HARTride 2012 · August 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM

46arthurdu began uploading the videos for

on Monday 8/1.

First part (Montrouge to Montparnasse – Bienvenüe) - Uploaded 8/1

Second part (Montparnasse – Bienvenüe to Saint Lazare) - Uploaded 8/2

Third part [Saint Lazare to La Fourche (junction of the two northern branches)] - Uploaded 8/3

At 3:37 in this video, a chime rings, reminiscent of the former chime on Line 14 @ Gare de Lyon

From here, we go to the two northern branches...

Genevillers branch - Uploaded 8/6.

St Denis branch (coming soon)

I will try to update this post as the other parts are uploaded.

HARTride 2012 · August 7th, 2011, 05:42 AM

Originally, I had the listing of all of the lines that have been filmed by 46arthurdu on this post, including links to all of the videos. Due to the upload of Line 8, I have reposted the entire list. Please refer to Post #2493 for revisions.

Alargule · August 7th, 2011, 06:10 PM

Hey, thanks for the list! His videos give you a really interesting glimpse into the infrastructure of the Paris Metro system. Though I wonder whether it will still be that interesting if you see it every day as a train operator.

Are Parisian train operators assigned to different lines each time, or do they only operate on one or a few lines?

HARTride 2012 · August 8th, 2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alargule

Hey, thanks for the list! His videos give you a really interesting glimpse into the infrastructure of the Paris Metro system.

No problem. But I must place my thanks to trainrover, who suggested that I make the list more detailed. Kudos to trainrover!

***Minato ku*** · August 16th, 2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alargule

Are Parisian train operators assigned to different lines each time, or do they only operate on one or a few lines?

They only operate on one or a few lines.

HARTride 2012 · August 17th, 2011, 01:45 AM

I wonder how many times per year they rotate the operators (reassign operators to another line/route after a few months). I know some transit agencies rotate bus & train operators on a quarterly or semi-annual basis.

***Minato ku*** · August 17th, 2011, 10:07 AM

Far less, an operator stay in a sole line for several years.
He can be transfered but any transfer to a new line needs training.

HARTride 2012 · August 17th, 2011, 03:17 PM

Oh wow, that is much more tight knit than other transit agencies. I guess RATP has their reasons for this.

Imagine if I were an operator on Line 4....could I really handle 4 years on Line 4? Maybe.......lol.

HARTride 2012 · August 18th, 2011, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARTride 2012

This is unrelated to this thread, but I thought I'd post it here. It's a monorail train that I drew up for one of my "fantasy" transit systems. The design of this train is strikingly similar to the MF 77 on the Paris Metro.

Not to get things off track again, but I am wanting to post this sketch of one of the rolling stock that is used for my fantasy subway system. It is called the MP 76 and is based off the MP 73 (though they look more like their Chilean counterparts, the NS 74)

Also to note, all my stations include Siel panels, like the Paris Metro. The architectural style of the stations are mixed; with some stations based off Paris, New York, Washington, DC, and Santiago. There is also an automated line that is based off Line 14 and utilizes rolling stock based on the MP 05.

To minimize clutter on this thread, I will be posting these and other sketches to the two misc threads; MISC | Fantasy Network Maps & MISC | Fantasy Metro vehicles

HARTride 2012 · August 21st, 2011, 02:52 AM

Hey Minato, would have any updates for Line 4's stock transition? I noticed on the French Wiki that one MP 59 was taken out of service on August 13. It used to list 45 trains, now it lists 44.

Also, how many MF 01 operate passenger service on Line 5 now?

***Minato ku*** · August 21st, 2011, 09:11 AM

Second MP89 will be delivered in September.

HARTride 2012 · August 21st, 2011, 03:08 PM

Cool. Can't wait to see videos in Sept/Oct.

Tunnel connecting Line 10 to Line 4 @ Odeon.

More MF01

Gare d'Austerlitz

Bobigny-Pablo Picaso

trainrover · August 21st, 2011, 09:28 PM

Are door leafs to the MF01 stock no longer equipped with open handles/buttons

***Minato ku*** · August 22nd, 2011, 07:30 AM

Yes, like the MP89.

HARTride 2012 · August 23rd, 2011, 07:58 PM

Is this due to safety reasons?

Invalides

Blackraven · August 29th, 2011, 04:19 PM

I do hope that anyone who has complained about breakdowns at Paris Metro Line 14 (METEOR) should've considered how difficult and complex the operation of the service is.

Especially if they are using something like this:

OpenVMS as the operating system and using Ada programming language (which IMHO is a more difficult and higher-level object-oriented programming language compared to Java).

As someone who's taken computer science in their first year, I know what it feels like to be a computer programmer. It's extremely difficult, highly-stressful and will make anyone go insane.

So all I'm saying here is, for people who complain every time Paris Metro Line 14 (METEOR) breaks down, I suggest those complainants take a look at that image I posted.

It's easy to complain but it's difficult to operate something that is highly technical and complex.

The same goes for any driverless train system elsewhere in the world (or any rail transport system that uses a very high degree of software interaction)

***Minato ku*** · August 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM

Anyway the line 14 is by far the most reliable of Paris metro.
It does not break down often.

HARTride 2012 · August 29th, 2011, 06:12 PM

What exactly happened on the Line 14? Trains not operating? Longer wait times?

In any such event, do the conductors move in and operate the trains manually? Or does it depend on the scenario?

***Minato ku*** · August 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM

Nothing, Blackraven showed that the program of the line 14 is complicated. Technical issues can happen sometimes but it is extremely uncommon.
The line 14 can be driven manually.

HARTride 2012 · August 29th, 2011, 10:35 PM

EDIT

August 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM	#2201
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Line 13 videos 46arthurdu began uploading the videos for on Monday 8/1. First part (Montrouge to Montparnasse – Bienvenüe) - Uploaded 8/1 Second part (Montparnasse – Bienvenüe to Saint Lazare) - Uploaded 8/2 Third part [Saint Lazare to La Fourche (junction of the two northern branches)] - Uploaded 8/3 At 3:37 in this video, a chime rings, reminiscent of the former chime on Line 14 @ Gare de Lyon From here, we go to the two northern branches... Genevillers branch - Uploaded 8/6. St Denis branch (coming soon) I will try to update this post as the other parts are uploaded. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook Last edited by HARTride 2012; August 7th, 2011 at 04:30 AM.

August 7th, 2011, 05:42 AM	#2202
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Listing of the Paris Metro complete-line videos Originally, I had the listing of all of the lines that have been filmed by 46arthurdu on this post, including links to all of the videos. Due to the upload of Line 8, I have reposted the entire list. Please refer to Post #2493 for revisions. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook Last edited by HARTride 2012; November 21st, 2011 at 03:45 PM.

August 7th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#2203
Alargule riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: La Guerla Posts: 4,902	Hey, thanks for the list! His videos give you a really interesting glimpse into the infrastructure of the Paris Metro system. Though I wonder whether it will still be that interesting if you see it every day as a train operator. Are Parisian train operators assigned to different lines each time, or do they only operate on one or a few lines? __________________ NederlandMetro

August 17th, 2011, 01:45 AM	#2206
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	I wonder how many times per year they rotate the operators (reassign operators to another line/route after a few months). I know some transit agencies rotate bus & train operators on a quarterly or semi-annual basis. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

August 17th, 2011, 10:07 AM	#2207
*Minato ku* Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 11,700	Far less, an operator stay in a sole line for several years. He can be transfered but any transfer to a new line needs training. __________________ すみません　! J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !

August 17th, 2011, 03:17 PM	#2208
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Oh wow, that is much more tight knit than other transit agencies. I guess RATP has their reasons for this. Imagine if I were an operator on Line 4....could I really handle 4 years on Line 4? Maybe.......lol. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

August 21st, 2011, 02:52 AM	#2210
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Hey Minato, would have any updates for Line 4's stock transition? I noticed on the French Wiki that one MP 59 was taken out of service on August 13. It used to list 45 trains, now it lists 44. Also, how many MF 01 operate passenger service on Line 5 now? __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

August 21st, 2011, 09:11 AM	#2211
*Minato ku* Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 11,700	Second MP89 will be delivered in September. __________________ すみません　! J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !

August 21st, 2011, 03:08 PM	#2212
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Cool. Can't wait to see videos in Sept/Oct. Tunnel connecting Line 10 to Line 4 @ Odeon. More MF01 Gare d'Austerlitz Bobigny-Pablo Picaso __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook Last edited by HARTride 2012; August 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 PM.

August 21st, 2011, 09:28 PM	#2213
trainrover Lucy-Kellaway's 4 ∞ Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,151 Likes (Received): 21	Are door leafs to the MF01 stock no longer equipped with open handles/buttons __________________ . Currently, my favourite track shared here on SC .

August 22nd, 2011, 07:30 AM	#2214
*Minato ku* Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 11,700	Yes, like the MP89. __________________ すみません　! J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !

August 23rd, 2011, 07:58 PM	#2215
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Is this due to safety reasons? Invalides __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook Last edited by HARTride 2012; August 23rd, 2011 at 08:53 PM.

August 29th, 2011, 04:19 PM	#2216
Blackraven Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Makati (in the Philippines) Posts: 1,742 Likes (Received): 11	I do hope that anyone who has complained about breakdowns at Paris Metro Line 14 (METEOR) should've considered how difficult and complex the operation of the service is. Especially if they are using something like this: OpenVMS as the operating system and using Ada programming language (which IMHO is a more difficult and higher-level object-oriented programming language compared to Java). As someone who's taken computer science in their first year, I know what it feels like to be a computer programmer. It's extremely difficult, highly-stressful and will make anyone go insane. So all I'm saying here is, for people who complain every time Paris Metro Line 14 (METEOR) breaks down, I suggest those complainants take a look at that image I posted. It's easy to complain but it's difficult to operate something that is highly technical and complex. The same goes for any driverless train system elsewhere in the world (or any rail transport system that uses a very high degree of software interaction)

August 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM	#2217
*Minato ku* Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 11,700	Anyway the line 14 is by far the most reliable of Paris metro. It does not break down often. __________________ すみません　! J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !

August 29th, 2011, 06:12 PM	#2218
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	What exactly happened on the Line 14? Trains not operating? Longer wait times? In any such event, do the conductors move in and operate the trains manually? Or does it depend on the scenario? __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

August 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM	#2219
*Minato ku* Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Paris, Montrouge Posts: 11,700	Nothing, Blackraven showed that the program of the line 14 is complicated. Technical issues can happen sometimes but it is extremely uncommon. The line 14 can be driven manually. __________________ すみません　! J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !

August 29th, 2011, 10:35 PM	#2220
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	EDIT __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook Last edited by HARTride 2012; August 30th, 2011 at 10:38 PM.

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