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Old June 26th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #221
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You can have a look on these websites :

http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/article830.html

http://www.ratp.fr/lesactualites/laune/3904.shtml

http://www.exurbis.com/fr/2007/06/vi...ro-olympiades/

It's in French but you can find nice pics of the station.
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Old June 26th, 2007, 02:15 AM   #222
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^ Would this new subway ring line be metro or RER? Is it the one I've heard referred to as the "metroperipherique"? Would it be automated? Are there any other loop lines proposed for Paris, say further out in the suburbs?

Also, I see on the map that some existing metro lines are planned to be extended further out into the suburbs. Are there plans to do this on many of the lines or will the metro remain primarily for inner Paris?
Actually, the most advanced part of the "Métrophérique/Arc Express/LSE" project is the line between Arceuil and and Val-de-Fontenay in Val-de-Marne : they are already undergoing studies, and we may see the begining of the works for 2012-2013.

Metropolitan told you about the Grande Ceinture Ouest and the Tangentielle Nord. The thrird loop line projected is the former Tangentielle Sud, now called Tram-Train Evry/Massy, that will link those two cities. You can find a map of this project here.

For more informations about the GCO, you can have a look here and here.

For more informations about the Tangentielle Nord, you can have a look here and here.

And for informations about the Val-de-Marne part of the proposed loop-metro, you have the website of the Conseil Général : http://www.cg94.fr/node/800
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Old June 26th, 2007, 02:28 AM   #223
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This is the district of Olympiade

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Old June 26th, 2007, 03:45 AM   #224
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Old June 26th, 2007, 04:52 PM   #225
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Olympiade subway station

Beautiful station, clean (obvious it is new), luminous.
But I don't like the new ticket gates, the older of the line 14 are more futurist.

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I learn some interesting fact, the real traffic of the line 14 is 100,000,000 journey and not 62,000,000.

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Old June 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM   #226
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Better pictures by Metropole site.




According the website the ugly toll gates are only here for few month, after those will be remplaced by Météor type gate



Actually the line 14 has 389,000 passengers per workday, with this new station the workday traffic is estimated at 410,000.
Note that the estimation are always underestimating.
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Old June 26th, 2007, 10:04 PM   #227
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Nice station! I hope it doesn't look dirty in a few years time. How was it constructed? Cut and cover or tunnelling shield?
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Old June 26th, 2007, 10:29 PM   #228
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Tunnelling shield.

This station was built in 1998, but it was an for the maintenance of the trains.
In 2001, the tunnel was extended to Maison Blanche for a new maintenance station, but the tunnel broke down under a school.
Due at this accident the construction was delayed.

This station should open in 2004.

With 100,000,000 journeys per year, I can say that the line 14 is the busiest driverless line in Europe, and one of busiest in world.


The line 14 is connected at :
- 10 subway lines
- 5 RER lines
- 2 big railway stations.
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Old June 27th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #229
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Sarkozy want Metropheique

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Feu vert au métrophérique. C'est un engagement qui pourrait peser lourd pour le projet de transports en commun le plus ambitieux de la région : hier, Nicolas Sarkozy a demandé de « construire le projet métrophérique ». Il s'agit de réaliser une ligne de métro autour de Paris reliant les trois départements limitrophes. Cela permettrait de soulager les lignes de métro et de RER, en voie de saturation complète. Evalué entre 5 et 10 milliards d'euros, ce projet colossal n'est pour l'instant qu'un voeu pieu. Reste à savoir si la déclaration de Nicolas Sarkozy sera suivie d'effet.
Source : Sébastien Ramnoux, June 27, 2007 http://www.leparisien.com/home/mavil...leid=276117385

This article, on the Parisien newspaper, say that the new french President want build Metropherique, the subway ring in inner suburbs. The estimated cost is between 5 and 10 billion €. This estimated traffic is 1 million passengers per day
Actually it is only a project but the construction can begin in 2010 according RATP.
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Old June 27th, 2007, 04:41 PM   #230
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Nice station. I've never been to Paris (or France) before, but it looks like a nice city to visit. A few questions.

Are there any plans to extend line 14 further?
Is there space for additional carriages or no room at all at the stations?
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Old June 27th, 2007, 05:44 PM   #231
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Yes actually the trains of the line 14 have 6 cars but it can be extended at 8 cars. The only problem is Saint Lazare station, that would be extended.

The line 14 would take one branch of the line 13 at the north and one branch of the line 7 at the south.
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I see. I've seen a few videos on youtube that showed the stations had some extra space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqs00PlqtN0

This one shows the extra space kind of well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tjzYqjBkI

If I'm right, only line 1 and 14 operate on the rubber tired system that uses the MP models? So the branches to be taken over would need to be converted?

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Old June 27th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #233
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No the lines 4, 6 and 11 use also rubber tired system.
but these branchs are not rubber tired and would need to be converted.
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Ah, I see.

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Tunnelling shield.
How do they use the tunnelling shield? 'Cause on the Tube it's quite obvious, but on the Paris Metro the stations aren't tubular at all...
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Old June 28th, 2007, 01:47 AM   #236
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I saw conventional rails in the middle of the tire tracks on lines 1 and 14, is that so steel wheel trains can operate on them or are they not tracks?
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Old June 28th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #237
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How do they use the tunnelling shield? 'Cause on the Tube it's quite obvious, but on the Paris Metro the stations aren't tubular at all...
Tunnel in the line 14 are tubular, how say that Paris has the densest subway system in the world and you cannot built a new subway line in the center with cut an cover system. The line 14 is deeper than the other line.

How we can built a line without using tunneling in such dense district ?




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dl3000, Right rubber tired train on Paris metro has conventional tracks , so steel train can use rubber tired line.

The line 1, 4, 6 and 11 was converted on rubber tired line without interuption of the passenger service. During several months rubber tired train and steel tired train used the same line.
Rubber tired trains on Paris metro have steel
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Old June 29th, 2007, 11:15 AM   #238
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Does there exist a kind of 3D map of the Parisien tunnels ?
Must be interesting to see how the network is built in layers underground.
At the info centre of LD there is a kind of 3D presentation of the entire LD station, which is already extremely impressive.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:41 PM   #239
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I see 3D maps of tunnel in the Book "De Bienvenue a Meteor. Un siecle de Metro en 14 lines"
A good book about Metro with many information, this book is from 2004 and the data are a bit outdated but it is good.
The only problem it is that these 3D maps not include RER tunnel and this is not a complete map but only some part.
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The Naturally Seven music band singing in a line 1 train of Paris Metro.
Don't hesitate to hear it fully, the more it goes, the better it is.

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