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Old September 4th, 2011, 04:21 PM   #2401
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The project of the Grand Paris express subway is launched
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Arcadis lands role on new €23 bn Paris metro

Arcadis has won a €8m (£7.1m) contract to provide geotechnical and technical advisory services a new 155km automated metro line planned in Paris.

The Grand Paris Metro will circle the city of Paris and well over 130km will be underground. The new system will feature 72 stations and will interconnect with the existing public transport systems in Paris. The total construction costs of the Grand Paris Metro are estimated at €23bn. The line is expected to be completed in 2023. Client for the scheme is Société du Grand Paris.

Under this contract, Arcadis will lead, monitor and analyse the geotechnical investigations and define the geological and geotechnical models for the underground tracks and overpasses, including the stations. Arcadis will also verify and validate the conceptual design of each section as proposed by various engineering companies. The present contract is expected to last four years.

“This projects shows that governments continue with large infrastructure investments to solve major transportation challenges and strengthen their economies in the longer term”, said Nicolas Simonin, CEO for the French activities of Arcadis. “We are extremely proud to support this unique project. By combining our client focused approach, technical excellence in underground construction design and comprehensive risk management know-how, we were able to convince the Société du Grand Paris that Arcadis is the right choice for this project.”
http://www.theconstructionindex.co.u...bn-paris-metro
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Old September 4th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #2402
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Line 10 will more likely be extended towards Ivry-sur-Seine, with transfer at Bibliothèque François Mitterrand (RER C, M°14), that's what all the latest discussions revealed.
That would not be entirely useless, but it would be duplicating RER C. The only benefit would be adding some new stations. I think it's more important to connect Gare d'Austerlitz with Gare de Lyon.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 02:03 AM   #2403
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Is the Metro ring line going ahead officially then? Great news if it is.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 09:41 AM   #2404
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That would not be entirely useless, but it would be duplicating RER C. The only benefit would be adding some new stations. I think it's more important to connect Gare d'Austerlitz with Gare de Lyon.
With an extension to Ivry, this part of the mincipality, wich is expected to grow a lot, will have much better service by mass transit than with the RER C.

To have a signifiant service with the RER C all trains would need to stop at Ivry, this is complicated to do (Ivry station is very small) and will increase the commute of many outer suburbanites.
The RER C serve a lot the outer suburbs. The idea is to use the metro to serve inner suburbs.

Honestly Gare d'Austerlitz is close to Gare de Lyon, an undergound walkway between these stations would be enouth.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 04:31 AM   #2405
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The sounds of the Metro

I stumbled upon this website the other day. It contains sound clippings of various Paris Metro trains (& station atmosphere), trains include the Sprague, MP-59, and MF-67.
http://www.soundeffects.ch/surround-...0Paris%20Metro
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Old September 6th, 2011, 04:43 PM   #2406
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So with 155 more kms Paris's metro will be the 3rd longuest in the world!
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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:54 PM   #2407
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No, when all these 155 km will be opened several chinese cities will have bigger one and still London.

The 155km of Grand Paris Express doesn't include the extension of the other existing metro lines.
-Line 1 to Val de Fontenay
-Line 4 to Bagneux
-Line 5 to Drancy
-Line 7 to le Bourget
-Line 10 to Ivry
-Line 11 to Rosny 2
-Line 12 to La Courneuve 6 routes and Issy RER
and more.

The extension of the line 8 to Creteil Pointe du Lac will open on October 8, 2011.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #2409
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Gare d'Austerlitz is close to Gare de Lyon, an undergound walkway between these stations would be enouth.
An underground walkway would be enough for me. At about 600 meters, it would be good to include moving walkways. A single bore of 3 to 3.5 meters diameter would suffice.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 12:08 AM   #2410
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No, when all these 155 km will be opened several chinese cities will have bigger one and still London.
London will still have the biggest European metro network but Paris one will be the biggest European underground network for sure.

Moreover, I am not sure many chinese cities will have a bigger metro network than Paris one by 2025 except Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #2411
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London will still have the biggest European metro network but Paris one will be the biggest European underground network for sure.
You forgot about Madrid. While Paris has only 214km Madrid has 291km (over 90% underground)! So Madrid is the second largest metro network in Europe after London and sixth longest metro in the world (Shanghai, London, New York, Moscow, Seoul)

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Moreover, I am not sure many chinese cities will have a bigger metro network than Paris one by 2025 except Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou.
Plus Shenzhen for sure!
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No, when all these 155 km will be opened several chinese cities will have bigger one and still London.
Singapore's MRT will probably exceed 400 kilometers by 2025, more than 300 kilometers of which would be underground.

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Moreover, I am not sure many chinese cities will have a bigger metro network than Paris one by 2025 except Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou.
Hong Kong? Taipei?
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Old September 7th, 2011, 01:33 AM   #2414
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You forgot about Madrid. While Paris has only 214km Madrid has 291km (over 90% underground)! So Madrid is the second largest metro network in Europe after London and sixth longest metro in the world (Shanghai, London, New York, Moscow, Seoul)



Plus Shenzhen for sure!
Paris metro is currently 197km underground (out of the 214km network). If we add the 155km Grand Paris network which will be 95% underground and the other planned extension, I am pretty sure that the biggest European underground network will be Paris one by 2025.

Yep, I forgot Shenzen and maybe some others...
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No, when all these 155 km will be opened several chinese cities will have bigger one and still London.

The 155km of Grand Paris Express doesn't include the extension of the other existing metro lines.
-Line 1 to Val de Fontenay
-Line 4 to Bagneux
-Line 5 to Drancy
-Line 7 to le Bourget
-Line 10 to Ivry
-Line 11 to Rosny 2
-Line 12 to La Courneuve 6 routes and Issy RER
and more.

The extension of the line 8 to Creteil Pointe du Lac will open on October 8, 2011.
Line 12 extension has 6 proposed routes?

Also, has the routing been finalized yet for Line 11's extension?
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Old September 7th, 2011, 02:05 AM   #2416
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No, "La Courneuve 6 routes" is the name of the station.
This station will provide a link with the tram T1 and serve an area that is likely to grow and change a lot in the future.

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What is the meaning of the station in English? Does it have anything to do with the roadway interchange pictured?
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"La Courneuve" is the name of the place then "6 routes" isn't difficult to guess what it means in English
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Paris metro is currently 197km underground (out of the 214km network). If we add the 155km Grand Paris network which will be 95% underground and the other planned extension, I am pretty sure that the biggest European underground network will be Paris one by 2025...
155km in 14 yars? There is no way - according to the speed of extention works in Paris right now - it takes years and years to add just one station on line M8 or M4 so i doubt. Paris will never build as many km of new metros. Not even in 30 years... but if i'm wrong, i'll buy u a beer
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"La Courneuve" is the name of the place then "6 routes" isn't difficult to guess what it means in English
I was asking Minato more specifically if the name of the station had anything to do with the roadway interchange in the photo. I would actually think so, since it is an interchange of 6 highways (though it looks like 7)
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