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Old September 30th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #2501
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In the diagram of the line 7 Chatelet is an interchange station but not in the line 3.

I draw this line, it could be real.

Could you please draw a similar diagram for the second line too?
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Old September 30th, 2011, 08:13 PM   #2502
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featuring a fictional Paris Metro station ''Rue Catharine - Park Cresant''
Oh, how original! with 'prominent' names like that, surely the daftly-entertaining video must hail from Montreal, which is supposedly known as a centre for manufacturing crap like that (the intersection of Ste-Catherine W & Crescent Streets, right downtown, is supposedly the hub of Montreal's most popular nightlife district, being where wannabe men go to pick up chix for lousily-good times)
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Old September 30th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #2503
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I draw this line, it could be real.


could be real ??? NOT EASILY

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Old September 30th, 2011, 08:49 PM   #2504
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There are plenty of area where the actual Paris almost do 90° turn.


Drawing the second line is not as easy because the line would begin at Malesherbes at 60 km of Central Paris.
They also did a mistake, it is not "Le Vert de Masions" but "Le Vert de Maison" (RER D station).
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Old September 30th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #2505
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NOT EASILY
Right, hence the term "hairpin turn"
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Old September 30th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #2506
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There are plenty of area where the actual Paris almost do 90° turn
Yes, they turn, BUT stay under wide streets.
Running 10 meters under street and turn "90°" to go under buldings is not easy.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 09:43 PM   #2507
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Supposedly, Vancouver has the world's tightest metro curve; besides, what Parisian thoroughfare isn't wide?
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Old September 30th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #2508
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Yes, they turn, BUT stay under wide streets.
Running 10 meters under street and turn "90°" to go under buldings is not easy.
It is the same on the map I drawing. It is ether wide streets or square.
The only place where it would be complicated is on Boulevard de Magenta between Place de Colonel Fabien and Jacques Bonsergent.

Note that in the map I draw, I took the M sign placed on Google map and not the real emplacement of the stations.
This is why some turn look sharper than what they would be in the reality.
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If a future curve be too tight for side-by-side tracking, then the tracks would be stacked.

Isn't the Line-7 segment between Palais Royal-Louvre and Pont Neuf stations a good example where the trains slowly snake the maze of streets above?
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Old September 30th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #2510
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It is the same on the map I drawing. It is ether wide streets or square.
The only place where it would be complicated is on Boulevard de Magenta between Place de Colonel Fabien and Jacques Bonsergent.

Note that in the map I draw, I took the M sign placed on Google map and not the real emplacement of the stations.
This is why some turn look sharper than what they would be in the reality.
I don't say it's impossible , I say not easy.

Something I don't understand when looking at your drawing :
Does the new line use some parts of actuel tunnels, or only new ones ?
If actuel tunnels, what happens with the others parts of actual metro lines in these tunnels ?
If completely new tunnels : where they would be bored in the narrowest streets or avenues (where already exists an old tunnel section) : beside, no place, and under, not easy.


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Old September 30th, 2011, 10:49 PM   #2511
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I said that this line would be possible (as the geography of the stations on the line is not bad) not that I wanted to build this line.
About the tunnel of the other lines, if you look the diagram, it is easy to see that the Paris metro system in this game is not exactly like the existing one.

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Old September 30th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #2512
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yes, it's just a game.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #2513
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MP89 little cab ride.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 05:17 AM   #2514
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Neat vid.

More MP 89CC #44

Montparnasse -Bienvenue


Porte d'Orléans
http://youtu.be/cJ3SspcpNEQ

http://youtu.be/TiBYjm3O9vM

http://youtu.be/4AFpd-seiYY

Simplon


Saint Germain des Près
http://youtu.be/8_-IzN48Zjs

Vavin (with MP 59)
http://youtu.be/6FH7kNXSFbA

http://youtu.be/d0c4oagGv3I

St. Michel (with MP 59)
http://youtu.be/x1UIEoGqURc

Cite


MP 89CC #01

Cite


Vavin (with MP 59)
http://youtu.be/KhwnvNtSjIc

Clignancourt
http://youtu.be/t6WzLXMeHb0

Interior - Porte d'Orléans to Alesia
http://youtu.be/4ZYlCP27uqA

Interior - Alesia to Mouton Duvernet
http://youtu.be/2ewNGRaXYec

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Old October 1st, 2011, 05:28 AM   #2515
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Cite Madness

Ok, so now that we have a slew of MP 89CC videos on Line 4, let's take a look at all of the trains that have passed through Cite (that we have Youtube vids of)

Sprague



MP 59



MF 67 Tractor



MF 77



MP 89CC

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Supposedly, Vancouver has the world's tightest metro curve
Any pics?
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Old October 1st, 2011, 01:37 PM   #2517
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I said that this line would be possible (as the geography of the stations on the line is not bad) not that I wanted to build this line.
About the tunnel of the other lines, if you look the diagram, it is easy to see that the Paris metro system in this game is not exactly like the existing one.

Indeed. I believe they changed the names of the stations and changed the colors of the lines to avoid a lawsuit or something.. I don't think RATP wants that their metro system is depicted in an M-rated game
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That is true. But I think they may have been able to use other fictional names for the other stations. It is almost borderline it seems.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 03:23 PM   #2519
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HARTride 2012: That's too much videos, avoid to have more than five videos by post and ten videos by page.

1.506 billion passengers in the metro in 2010, it is by far the highest ridership since 1946. (just after the war, the metro was one few working transportation mode).
1938: 0.761 billion Before the war
1944: 1.112 billion
1945: 1.508 billion
1946: 1.598 billion
1947: 1.453 billion
1948: 1.389 billion
1948: 1.246 billion
1949: 1.246 billion
1950: 1.129 billion Here everything back to normal
Between 1950 and 2000, the traffic stagnated between 1.1 billion and 1.2 billion passengers.

If ten years ago someone told me that in 2010 we will have a similar traffic than in 1945, I would never believe him.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 05:39 PM   #2520
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1.506 billion passengers in the metro in 2010, it is by far the highest ridership since 1946.
Thanks. For comparison, what is the bus ridership? Still about a billion per year?
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