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Old November 4th, 2011, 09:05 AM   #2601
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It seems just to me or windows of MP 05 are much taller than that of MP 89? And the second question: why did they decide to use old type of cars to make MP 05 and not the design of MF 01 which is much slicker and more modern?
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Old November 4th, 2011, 02:32 PM   #2602
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There are also LCD screens and A/C.
Really, there is A/C?!
Are these the first paris metro trains to have A/C? Won't it have a very big effect on the temperature of the subway stations and tunnels, making the hole system very hot?
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Old November 4th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #2603
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It seems just to me or windows of MP 05 are much taller than that of MP 89? And the second question: why did they decide to use old type of cars to make MP 05 and not the design of MF 01 which is much slicker and more modern?
Idk.

From what I've been hearing, the replacement stock for the MP73 on Line 6 will be based off the MF 01.

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Really, there is A/C?!
Are these the first paris metro trains to have A/C? Won't it have a very big effect on the temperature of the subway stations and tunnels, making the hole system very hot?
The MF 01 was the first stock to have A/C (refrigerated cooling....or whatever it's called).
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Old November 4th, 2011, 06:58 PM   #2604
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How do the trains actually know when to close the doors?
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Old November 4th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #2605
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Do we have any data of any difference in travel times or frequencies due to the driveless sistem?

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How do the trains actually know when to close the doors?
It's timed. They also have a presence detector to aboid closing the door until they're free.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #2606
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Left: the President of Ile de France region (Jean Paul Huchon)
Center: the Chairman of the RATP (Pierre Mongin)
Right: the Minister of Ecology, Sustainable Development, Transportation and Housing (Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet)
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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #2607
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Do we have any data of any difference in travel times or frequencies due to the driveless sistem?
-A frequency of 85s instead of 105s.
-30 km/h of average speed instead of 27.4 km/h.
-MP05 have 6% more capacity than the MP89.

This will increase the capacity of the line 1 of more than 25%.
Anyway the real difference will be when all the trains on the line 1 will be driverless MP 05.

Except kids, fans and elders, nobody seem to care.
This place is the only execption


We meet an other MP05 (the purple 503)


Detail of the LCD screens




An other MP05, this is the number one (501) with a yellow front.


The 508 with a blue face departing of Gare de Lyon


The 506 is parked in the third track of Gare de Lyon M1 station.


The 509 doesn't have a colored face.
It is the normal look of the MP05.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #2608
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Great to see an existing line converted to driverless.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:26 AM   #2609
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Agreed. Perhaps we will Line 4 converted as well by 2040.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 10:19 AM   #2610
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I still don't understand why they decided to take MP 89 design to make a new train instead of something really modern and sleek which is MF 01. MP 89 looks very outdated in my opinion. And it looks indeed like a bus, not a train.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #2611
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As long as it's driverless, I don't care too much how a train looks.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 06:04 PM   #2612
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Old November 6th, 2011, 07:11 PM   #2613
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46arthurdu is now releasing his Line 8 videos. I will link the additional parts as they are uploaded.

Part 1: Balard >> Concorde



Part 2: Concorde >> République



Part 3: République >> Rueilly-Diderot (Link only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VEh00hSY24

Part 4: Reuilly-Diderot >> Ecole V. de Maisons-Alfort (Link only)
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Part 5: Ecole V. de Maisons-Alfort >> Creteil - Pointe du Lac (Link only)
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I still don't understand why they decided to take MP 89 design to make a new train instead of something really modern and sleek which is MF 01. MP 89 looks very outdated in my opinion. And it looks indeed like a bus, not a train.
Well I think they did not to spend money on the design and continue with a familiar model which has proven its reliability on several networks.
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Old November 9th, 2011, 07:40 PM   #2615
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Old November 9th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #2616
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a familiar model which has proven its reliability on several networks.
Several? try "few" or --rather-- "another" ...
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Old November 10th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #2617
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I guess, we could put the MF 67 into that mix, since it does run on multiple lines (even though they came in like 3 or 4 different models).

The MP 89 & the MF 01/(& possibly the upcoming MP 09) are almost like the MF 67 in a sense, but don't run on as many lines as the MF 67.
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As far as anybody can tell, that member was claiming the MP89 being replicated to other networks (systems), lines and other fleets aside ...
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If that is what he meant, then what we have is the MP 89CA & CC (Paris), the NS 93 (Santiago), the MP 89 TL (Laussane), and the MP 05 (Paris).

The MP 73 has also been replicated to Santiago (NS 74) & Mexico City (MP 82), and the MP 59 to Montreal (MR 63). The appearances of the trains definitely differ by system, but all seem to run in a similar fashion to their Parisian counterparts. The MR 63 in Montreal sound just like the MP 59 in Paris.

The whole line......in FAST motion. :P

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Old November 11th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #2620
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Note that if MP89 and MP05 are similar in design, motors and many other stuff are different.
By exemple the MP05 are much more quieter than the MP89.

About the MP09, it will never exist as no command of any new rolling stock has been made in 2009.
The rolling stock that will replace the MP73 of the line 6 and the MP59 of the line 11, will have an other name.

For the line 11, I believe they wait the extension, this extension will double the size of the line and there is several project about the conversion in a steel wheeled line.
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