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Old January 13th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #2761
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Line 1 terminates @ La defence. Rushhour train frequenty.
Right you are, not so many systems in the world can afford it. But we have to take into account that Parisian metro trains are small and now very fast. In Moscow headways during rush hours are some 80 - 90 seconds, the trains being 160 m long, having a strong and heavy acceleration (a train completely disappears within 12 - 14 second since start) and reaching 90 km/h. I still think that the longer train is, the more difficult it is to accurately use the timing, to control doors etc.

Axelferis, they are MF73 on line 13, refurbished. I saw them in July.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #2762
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Close, they are the MF 77 (steel wheel). Yes, they are on Line 13 and were recently refurbished.

(noticing the door that leads into the next car, it is already vandalized :/)
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:40 PM   #2763
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Hee hee, you should've seen the boffins sittin' virtually all alone during the rush-hour crams right in the midst of loads of grafitti all about them in their Première Classe wagons, pouting, back in the day
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Old January 13th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #2764
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I heard that first class cars were particulary vandalized.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #2765
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Has the vandalism migrated to Vélib yet?
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Old January 13th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #2766
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Vandalism Vexes Paris Bike-Rental System
February 11, 2009

PARIS — The Velib bike rental system has been hailed by Parisians and tourists alike for its convenience, as well as being a “green” alternative to getting around the French capital via taxicab, bus or metro. But the high cost of fixing, maintaining and, in many cases, replacing the fleet of about 20,000 bikes is proving too much for JCDecaux, the company that runs the program.

The Velib name is a play on words, a combination of “velo” (bike) and “liberté” (freedom). But many riders seem to be taking a bit too much liberty when it comes to the bikes. Of the 15,000 bicycles originally disbursed for the program, more than half have disappeared, reports the BBC, presumed to be stolen. Some Velib customers have even taken to filming their Velib (mis)adventures and posting the destruction of the bikes on video-sharing sites like YouTube (here’s one). The practice apparently even has its own catchy nickname: “Velib extreme.”

Nearly all of the original bikes have been replaced. At an estimated cost of roughly $500 each, the cost for replacing the entire fleet of 20,000 bikes would run about $10 million.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #2767
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It was a calm day unlike Monday rush hour when the RER A shut down on the afternoon.
Some people were blocked during two hours on trains.
As I heard, it was a MI84 which broke down on the tunnel between La Defense and Charles de Gaulle Etoile.
It is the largest undergound interstation in Paris area with 5 km and the train brock down exactly at the middle.
So some poeple had almost to walk 2.5 km on a diry and dark tunnel.
Obviously it was the hell on the rest of the network, the RER A is the busiest line.
It was impossible to take the line 1, it was recomendated to avoid Saint Lazare station.

Today on the line 2, I saw a driver dancing instead of driving the train, it proves us that Paris metro has ATO.
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Old January 14th, 2012, 03:08 AM   #2768
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We have the same system here in Oslo. And here you need to register your name and other details before you get the card. I assume that that is not needed for the Vélib?

Anyway, over 7500 bicycles is crazy.
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Old January 14th, 2012, 06:50 AM   #2769
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What is an ATO?
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Old January 14th, 2012, 06:54 AM   #2770
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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #2771
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Varenne, platform doors installation
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Let me guess, the track on the right is not in use and this used to be a terminus station?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 11:08 PM   #2773
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Varenne has never been a terminal station.
Not when it was part of the line 10, nor with the ex line 14 whose terminus was Invalides.

This third track was the south bound commercial track when Invalides was the terminus of the fromer line 14 (before 1976).
It is connected with the old loop of Invalides.

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Old January 15th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #2774
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Interesting perspective, because I'd have thought that un boucle inherently is what lock the final stop into remaining a terminus, what without any extensive modification come prolonging the line beyond
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Old January 16th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #2775
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Everything was rebuilt in Invalides for the jonction of the former line 14 and line 13.
This is why even if Invalides station of the line 13 was built in the 1910's, it has a 1970's architecture.
Same for the tunnel between Invalides and Varenne.

A boucle don't lock the terminal station, obviously or many extension would never be built and Paris would never serve important district like La Défense.
When a line is extended the boucle is either demolished or converted into a garage.

This was the case for the junction of the former line 14 and line 13.
This is also the case for the extension of the line 4.

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So the loops at Invaldes is now used as a garage?
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Old January 16th, 2012, 09:04 PM   #2777
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I know, Minato Ku, I'm just saying a terminating loop is more demanding come time for un prolongement. (One thing that surprised me was seeing a picture of a recent metro extension in Marseille, featuring buffers at the outer end within the new terminus [station], for I'd have imagined the authorities' extending the line just a few hundred metres farther for safety reasons [in this day and age], thus creating what's referred to as a [useful] arrière-gare around Quebec.)
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My pictures of gare de Lyon station.





























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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #2779
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Tell me, please, does this new platform-edge screeing happen to baffle the clatter/noise made by either one of the two types of metro stock over there?
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Axelferis, they are MF73 on line 13, refurbished. I saw them in July.

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