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Old October 4th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #301
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RER looks like a metro system aswell. Seems like Paris have 2 metro systems.
Bit like Hamburg and Berlin with the S-bahn that actually runs on dedicated tracks using a third rail power supply complimenting a U-bahn system in both cases.
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Old October 5th, 2007, 05:29 AM   #302
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In Oslo, our metro system also crosses the Oslo border. Metro uses third-rail system, while normal trains uses overhead power. In Barcelona, the metro uses overhead power aswel as trains.

RER might be a local train system, but I feel its hard to say that it is not a metro system. Metro in Oslo got more stations on surface than underground aswell.
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Old October 5th, 2007, 07:22 AM   #303
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Well, actually is a feeder for the Metro system. It's a banlieue-city linking network that carries more people.

I'm visiting Paris on December, by the way. And if it's God's will we'll be able to bring tons of pictures from the Metro and RER.


P.s. Why i can't find this kind of thread in the French forum?
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Old October 6th, 2007, 02:31 PM   #304
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Very interesting the video of Line 8 arriving at Creteil Prefecture, someone could say me how many stations of Paris metro are overground?
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Old October 6th, 2007, 04:08 PM   #305
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Very interesting the video of Line 8 arriving at Creteil Prefecture, someone could say me how many stations of Paris metro are overground?
16.6km

EDIT: Oups, I think I don't answer to right question...
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Old October 7th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #306
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Paris metro in 1991

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1770ClO26A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXiLbkzBT4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwAf3qWFy78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aya9kvqJTFM


Very original, I like it.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:42 AM   #307
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http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Métrophérique

I found on that wiki site that you can download a french RATP report on Metropherique from Oct 2nd 2007. Wiki sums it up and says that the future line will be:

-Automatic metro like line 14
-2 to 7km from the peripherique
-50km length
-50 stations
-1million passengers a day
-2 minute frequencies at peak
-estimated cost of 100M euros /km
-Earliest possible construction start is 2011
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:48 AM   #308
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someone could say me how many stations of Paris metro are overground?
24 out of 382 stations are overground (5 being at surface, 19 being elevated).
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:49 AM   #309
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This is the record in french, Metropherique projet data is in the 12th page.
http://www.ratp.fr/common/ressources/1044.pdf

Metropherique or Orbital is the most important transportation project since the RER A.
Note that the 1 million passengers was estimated in 1994, the inner suburbs have a high grow rate.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 03:09 PM   #310
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I have the ridership of Paris metro in 2006
1 409.5 million passengers (2.7% of growth).

http://ratp.fr/corpo/entreprise/rapp...entreprise.pdf
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Old October 8th, 2007, 03:34 PM   #311
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Don't you mean 1.4095 billion passengers?
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Yes, 1409.5 million passengers or 1.4095 billion passengers.
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I've never seen it written as 1409.5 million before.

You say "One point four thousand and ninety five billion" not "One thousand and ninety five million"...
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Werll maybe I was wrong, it is 1.4095 billion.
This figure don't include the RER.

Paris metro in 1983


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I've never seen it written as 1409.5 million before.

You say "One point four thousand and ninety five billion" not "One thousand and ninety five million"...
Doesn't "1409.5 million" prevent the always-annoying ambivalence between the British billion (1,000,000,000,000) and the American billion (1,000,000,000 - the British milliard)? It makes me wonder that you as a British (aren't you?) are using the American billion...
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We could say that Paris is one of busiest subway in the world.
Not so bad compared at the 1.499 billion of NYC subway.
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The British billion is pretty much extinct these days, so I just assumed you'd thought I was using the American billion.

I still think the American million is stupid though.

If a thousand thousands are a million then why isn't a million millions a billion?

But then again, a hundred hundreds isn't a thousand its ten thousand. But ten tens are a hundred!
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We could say that Paris is one of busiest subway in the world.
Not so bad compared at the 1.499 billion of NYC subway.
Not really... Only 6th.

Mind, London is 7th!

Soure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_10_...assenger_rides

I wonder why Moscow and Tokyo are so busy...
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6th out 150.
it is not that bad.
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The British billion is pretty much extinct these days, so I just assumed you'd thought I was using the American billion.

I still think the American million is stupid though.

If a thousand thousands are a million then why isn't a million millions a billion?

But then again, a hundred hundreds isn't a thousand its ten thousand. But ten tens are a hundred!
Interesting - I didn't know the British billion is almost extinct. But it is still "safer" to write 1000 million instead of 1 billion I guess, at least I've seen it in some articles.

However, I cannot understand your logic concerning hundred hundreds etc.
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