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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #3201
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Interesting how she thought a facelift was needed.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #3202
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More than a facelift but a complete modernization of the RATP (not only the visible face but also the organisation).
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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #3203
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I can see that.

At that point in time, I'm sure there were many things in the agency that were outdated and the MP 89 was only in planning stages (i'm sure).
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Old July 11th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #3204
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I am writing a small article about the metro of Paris, and I am here to get some ideas. The website I am writing for is a local government site about the construction of a new metro in Amsterdam called the North/Southline.

Art Nouveau, rubber-tyred metro, automatic driverless trains, dense system and open entrances (no roof) are the things that I am going to write about. I am also thinking about any problems during the construction of the metro in Paris. As far as I know virtually the entire system has been build under the avenues in Paris. But I asume that they also demolished buildings during construction.

A few questions about the metro of Paris:
-How many buildings have been demolished?
-Are there any special buildings that have been demolished?
-Any remarkable problems (damaged buildings for example) during the construction of one of the metro lines?
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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #3205
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I am not aware of any special building destroyed nor any buildings damaged during the construction of the metro.
If you did ask it for the RER, I could give some answer to you but I don't have any figure for Paris metro.
Obviously there were maybe some buildings demolished but nothing notable.

About more recent incident
In 2003, the courtyard of a school collapsed due to the construction of the extension of the line 14.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 02:58 AM   #3206
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Thanks!

Well how about the RER? If we are talking about buildings?

The RER is different from the Metro in Paris, however would you consider it a metro system?

Line 4 goes under the Île de la Cité on the Île de la Cité. Any idea how they made that part?

What do you find remarkable/interesting about the metro of Paris?
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Old July 12th, 2012, 06:20 AM   #3207
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amazing videos and pics !
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Old July 12th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #3208
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Thanks!
Well how about the RER? If we are talking about buildings?
I answered you in this thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...546006&page=54

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Line 4 goes under the Île de la Cité on the Île de la Cité. Any idea how they made that part?
Wikipedia will give you a better answer than me and with a better english.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_M%C3%A9tro_Line_4
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #3209
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would you consider it a metro system?
A and B lines were built in the 70's as a regional metro system.
Nowadays, I think it can easily be considered as a metro system : very high frequencies, around every 2min during rush our in the central part, usually around every 5min on branches on A line, a little bit lower on B line. Both have very high ridership, more than any other metro line in Paris ( 1 200 000 passenger per week days on A line, around 800 000 on B line). Furthermore, it is not used as a usual suburban commuter line, there are many stations where a lot of people gets off the train, and another lot of people gets on. Trains usually go from one side of Paris to the other, and serve very dense areas. I'd say A and B line are metros.

However, the situation is a bit different for C, D and E lines. E line has quite low frequencies, it will probably become like A and B lines in the future with the extension to the west. D line can not be considered as a metro, as frequencies are low as well, and as its branches serve non-urbanized areas that are not part of Paris agglomeration. Situation on C line is more complicated : frequencies are not that low on the central part, but it serves places on the countryside, and the branch to Pontoise is a bit weird, very slow and very few frequencies. I'd say C line is half metro/half commuter line. Anyway, metro or not, every line is what it is, and this only depends on which box/word we put it in.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #3210
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The ridership of the RER E is not so low (over 300,000 passengers per working day) and we shouldn't forget that only half of the line is built.
When the other half will open, the traffic will double (even more according estimation) and with over 600,000 pax, it will be the third busiest RER line.

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Old July 15th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #3211
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TV news, the opening day of the line 14, October 15, 1998.


A short TV documentary about the line 14.
Note that it was diffused few day before the opening of the line.
Don't be surprised if trains are empty, what we see is the line during the last test.
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La Defense - MP 05 changing directions.

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Old July 19th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #3214
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Interesting videos, both the documenary and the MP05 reversing. Also quite fun to see the bloke filming running through the train to make it to the front again in time.
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Interesting videos, both the documenary and the MP05 reversing. Also quite fun to see the bloke filming running through the train to make it to the front again in time.
I found that part funny. Plus an interruption in the video to hide from the MP 89 conductor.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #3217
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Tried to post this before, but perhaps it was overlooked.

I am hearing from the Symbioz Forums that Montrouge is delayed until February/March, 2013. Can anyone confirm this and explain why?
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Sorry, I can confirm it, we knew that the opening in December 2012 of Mairie de Montrouge would be hard to maintain.
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I see. I was reading the French Wiki as well, and the dates have changed there too.

I was reading the last post on the respective thread in the Symbioz Forum. It is mentioned that there are questions raised about the structural integrity of the station. Did I interpret that correctly?
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Old July 19th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #3220
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Don't worry, there is no problem about the structural integrity of the station but the work took more time than planned.
There are many old quarries under Montrouge.
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